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On 6/4/2010 4:14 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 6/1/2010 7:54 AM, Bob Whelan wrote: On 5/31/2010 8:07 PM, Rolf wrote: Over the years (30 or so) Caesar Creek Soaring Club has vacillated with setting the altimeter to zero or MSL. Last year the Board decided to put the Club ships on an MSL basis (private gliders exempted). There are however a number of members who are continuing to make it an issue. I would be interested in your thought and comments. Wearing my dry humor hat just a bit... snip Fast forward to another mountain airport and another time... There I wuz about to launch from a field at 8149' msl elevation, with a steenking, howling crosswind of 20+ knots. Naturally, I didn't want to land right off tow, so I decided I'd tow to 3,000' agl instead of my normal 2,000'...insurance against broken thermals and getting blown downwind away from the only landable place for miles around (i.e. the airport). I pop off at what my poor overstressed brain said was 3000' agl, known that instant to be an indicated 10,150' (I rounded up 'for safety's sake'!), in a decent-feeling upwelling and begin grinding around, keeping a beady eye on my drift relative to the field. I begin climbing too, but for some reason I couldn't get comfortable as fast as I thought my climb rate should be permitting...something about that lurking ground bugged me. About 500' into my climb I realized it was because the ground was WAY too close for being 3500' agl. Apparently my instructor had been right about my 'puny overworked brain' all those years ago! Uh, Bob, have you ever tried to set an altimeter to zero when you are at 8149'? Not going to happen - it will still show 1000's of feet when you've run out of adjustment. Now what do you do? AGL isn't an option, so you'd have to use MSL (as you did). Heck, I've never tried to set an altimeter to zero ANYtime/where, except for my pre-solo flights (@800' msl) before my instructor decided I was then smart enough to do simple arithmetic in my skull. And except for the time I couldn't ADD (3,000' to 8,149'), my lack of arithmetic skills have never been a problem. Perhaps, perhaps, if you'd used MSL from the start your brain would "do the math better". Perhaps indeed...I'm OK with one (aggravating initially, funnier by the second once I'd climbed away!) bozo error in 1100+ tows. So far as I know, I'm still 100% on my subtractions! There is a way around the math problem that's simple: a simple "dial" on the altimeter marked in 1000's of feet, which can be rotated to show AGL from any elevation you choose. The 1000's needle points to your AGL on the "dial". Before electronic flight computers, I used this "dial" and prayer wheel when flying XC. I reset the dial to elevation of whatever field I was currently using as my target. Sounds like a good tip for the sufficiently needy/motivated - thanks! Bob W. P.S. Funnily enough (excuse the shameless pseudo-plug), my memory says that was the same day 'Wilderness Doug' gained his moniker. It was BLOWing. |
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