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On Jun 11, 3:13*pm, Andy wrote:
On Jun 11, 7:13*am, Frank Whiteley wrote: http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=67...w=blog&id=2001 I doubt there is a case for an appeal. I can't agree with you. *There appears to be nothing in the kit itself that says a constest number is not allowed to be used. *A discussion or posting on RAS does not make a rule. *A note on the SSA website does not make a rule. *A notice in the Soaring magazine does not make a rule. *The rules are included in the kit and specifically in the SC summary: Declaration content a. Date of flight. b. Name of the pilot-in-command, and the flight crew if any (see Annex C, para 6.3c). c. Glider type, and its registration or serial number or unique NAC- assigned contest number. d. The make, model and serial number of the FR used (as recorded in the .igc file for the flight). For any barograph or GPS position recorder used, the make, model and serial number as verified by the OO before flight. If something else is to be enforced then the kit itself must be changed. Perhaps the kit should include the statement "All observers and badge applicants shall read all past issues of Soaring Magazine and shall browse all postings on RAS or the SAA website since anything published there shall take precedence over the rules published in this kit". Andy Ah this has already been well covered in this thread, but here goes again. A careful reading of SC3 and SC3c shows this is spelt out. SC3 4.2.1 "Declaration content a. blah blah... .... c. Glider type, and its registration or serial number or unique NAC-assigned contest number. d. blah blah..." Here I read this as clearly intended to mean "unique"to the glider not pilot since it is in the context of Glider type and its' registration. But what I think does not matter, as any doubt is removed in SC3 Annex C 6.3c that clarifies this rule... "[blah blah blah....] Not all NACs issue competition numbers or require them to be unique to a glider – the glider registration or its serial number must then be used." So the sporting code is pretty clear that the intent is you need to use the a unique glider ID, the SSA Contest ID does not appear to qualify. And I as posted previously by Eric Mann this has been apparently been hashed over between the IGC and SSA. So lets make progress and agree that this is the current rule. Next question is does this has an unreasonable impact on badges and records, and the promotion of soaring, in the USA and a solution needs to be found? (count me as a "yes" on that). Darryl |
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