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On Jul 23, 8:14*am, Mike Schumann
wrote: It looks like the low cost ADS-B UAT logjam has been broken: http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/article...x.html?WT.mc_i... While the price is somewhat higher than I would like to see, it's competitive with buying a transponder coupled with a Zaon PCAS XRX. *If you are within range of an ADS-B ground station, you get much more accurate and reliable position data for conflicting traffic, free weather, lower power consumption, plus you are visible to ATC!!!! The down sides: *No TSO, so the unit will not currently meet the 2020 ADS-B mandates; *Not visible to TCAS systems. Check them out at Oshkosh or on the web atwww.navworx.com. -- Mike Schumann While it is great to see ADS-B products appearing for the GA market I do not see this being a practical ADS-B product for glider applications. It does not support FLARM serial protocol so there is no way of getting traffic display or audible alerts via most popular soaring software or flight computers. My understanding from the manufacturer is they don't have any interest in supporting this. Has they changed their minds on that? None of the third party traffic warning systems that it interfaces to are tuned/optimized for glider-on-glider situations. Low power consumption? Are their published specs wrong? Those specs state a power draw of 0.7A @ 14VDC. If that is accurate then lets guess 0.8 A at 12 V, plus most installations will need to add the power requirements for a dedicated traffic display. That power draw is just not practical for many glider installations. Yet again I am dissapointed to see you position ADS-B as a replacement for a transponder. If there were no other issues with this device, many glider pilots in high density airline/fast-jet traffic areas will want/need to keep using a transponder. So I am not sure about the point of comparing the price to a transponder based system, those owners (who presumably are the ones buying transponders today) would want to add the price to a transponder to this system. The $2,500 price point plus the cost of whatever display system is needed to make this work, plus in some case where needed, the cost of a trasnponder, will disappoint many people. Unfortunately there are just no "low-cost" (well not as low as many people seem to have been expecting) ADS-B solutions for gliders now from any vendors. I am not sure of the point of conparing the cost of a transponder plus Zaon XRX (which nobody uses in gliders - I am aware of one test install). Did you mean MRX? The more interesting comparison for many reasons, not just cost, is to a PowerFLARM (with 1090ES data-in) + Trig TT21. That combination will be in the rough same cost range as the NavWorx ADS-B system plus the seperate display needed to make that work. But at least there you get full transponder functionality, integrated traffic display, FLARMs glider-on-glider optimized traffic warnings (as noted elsewhere you have to wait a while for TIS-B traffic support) and FLARM-FLARM radio compatibly with other PowerFLARM devices should they become popular in the USA. But this 1090ES based system would not provide FIS-B (weather etc.) data. Maybe all these prices will fall some over time but I'd not expect that to happen soon. And as a reminder to other folks gliders currently do not need to meet the 2020 ADS-B mandate. I am hoping that does not change. Darryl |
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