Why We Lost The Vietnam War

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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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With a modified Fueselage it of course became a great maritime patrol
aircraft known as the Nimrod. Nimrod is apparently superior than the
Orion: at least as far as the airframe is concerned.


Please xplain your reasons for arriving at this conclusion.
While the Nimrod is a fine aircraft the P-3 has had rather
more export success.

Our master of logic enters the fray. The VC10 and Super VC10 was a
superior
plane to the 707, yet the 707 outsold it.


It was far from superior which is why harly anybody except BA bought
the thing and they only did so because the government made them.
There was a famous leaked memo from BOAC requesting a subsidy
because they were having to compete with 707's that were
cheaper to run

Not only were the initial operating costs of the VC-10 higher but
the buried engine design meant that it couldnt use the new
more efficient (and quieter) powerplants that the 707 and
DC-8 were requipped with which meant the aircraft became
increasingly uncompetitve and it could not meet the new
noise restrictions introduced in the 70's and 80's.

The burried engines ( speys and now BMW/Rolls Royce BR715 ) provide a
significantly reduced radar signature. (Here lies the disadvantage of
burried eingines: installing high bypass ratio engines required
re-engineering of the wing roots)

I seriously doubt that any real advantage accrues from this.
Nimrod has a LARGE radar signature.

The engines which are close to the fueselage mean that opperation with
engines shutdown does not create significant asymetric thrust
problems. Indeed opperation on 2 engines is I believe normal on long
loitering patrols.

The latest Nimrods I believe have a range in excess of 6500nm and can
launch cruise missiles. They can be armed with sidewinders and
presumably AMRAAM style self homing missiles is a possibility.


AMRAAM is highly unlikley

He is gussing now.


No and I'm not guessing either, AMRAAM requires rather more
in the way of system integration than AIM-9 including a suitable
aircraft radar fit to get a lock at BVR

With the correct systems and sighting they might even provide the RAF
with a mini B52. The big wings must provide good altitude
performance.

Thats just silly. Nimrod simly doesnt have the payload carrying
capacity.
The RAF used to have a mini B-52 , it was called the Vulcan

You must read what was written.


I didnt, it was full of errors

Keith