Aircraft Takeoff speeds

The F4E carrying dispensers for the CBU38 (? antitank munitions) on
the inboard pylons rotated at 196 but that was a CG problem. FWIW we
got one batch of F104 tires that were built and designed to someone's
erroneous specifications (built to a newly specified design) and we
were throwing treads off brand new tires on a light-loaded zipper -
only gun ammo and 2xAIM9s aboard. That was interesting . . . Shortly
thereafter the specs were changed to a performance criterion and the
problems disappeared.

The Phantoms I flew had a tire speed limit of 190. The aircraft would take
off no flap at about 175. It's true that unstick was a problem with
forward CG, I just find it amazing it required that much speed in the
configuration you describe.

CQ fuel weight cat shots required full aft stick ... typical fighter mission
(single centerline and 2x2 missiles) full aft and then a wrist rotation
forward of that.

Of all the aircraft I've flown, only the F-4 and the TA-4 had an issue with
T/O rotation. The F-8 required very little (obvious from its
configuration).

R / John