Future Club Training Gliders

On Sep 18, 7:52*pm, "
wrote:
On Sep 18, 11:50*am, "kirk.stant" wrote:

On Sep 18, 3:04*am, "

wrote:
A 2-33 should be landed just like any other "nose dragger
glider" (G-103 II or ASK 21 etc)

Really? *The correct landing procedure for a 2-33 (and Blanik) is a
recipe for high energy landings in K-21s or G-103s (or worse case, a
high sink rate bounced landing leading to the infamous "galloping
Grob"!). *I hope you have a long runway and a big budget for brake
pads!

Kirk

Please explain further........how is the correct landing procedure for
a 2-33 going to result in a high energy landing in a Grob?

IMHO....the correct landing procedure for a 2-33 (low energy, slow
speed, nose high, tail low, etc) will result in a similar low energy
landing in a Grob..........this would be a short runway landing, with
little or no need for brakes......

Cookie

That is exactly correct.

However, regardless of instructor efforts to prevent it, students will
learn on their own a 2-33 stops really well with the skid on the
runway and the more weight on the skid, the faster it stops. Trying
to teach a student not to use this very useful trick is fruitless.

This primary learning will transfer to a Grob and other gliders where
it puts the new pilot at risk of a damaging accident. When a new
pilot really, really needs to stop, it's going to be hard for him not
to push the nose down.