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Commercial Rating for Towing Gliders not needed? in US



 
 
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Old November 3rd 10, 04:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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Default Commercial Rating for Towing Gliders not needed? in US

On Nov 2, 10:59*pm, T wrote:
On Nov 2, 8:51*pm, Tony wrote:



If you look to the history of 61.113 and Pvt Pilot Priviledges,
paragraph (g) was written to allow Pvt Pilots to count the hours as
tow pilot in their logbooks towards additional ratings. FAA did
consider that accumulation of free hours was non monetary compensation
and not allowed before the rewrite of 61.113(g).


The only "except as proivided in (b) thru (g)" that includes
compensation is (b)


I'll stand that paragraph 61.113(g) states that a Pvt Pilot may act as
PIC for tow operations, he may not be compensated for it.


T


I'm confused. *You first say that (g) allows a private pilot to
receive compensation (flight time towards a rating) but then you still
believe that a private pilot can tow but not be compensated for it?


are you trying to delineate between monetary and non-monetary
compensation? attempting to determine what you think the FAA's intent
was with a reg instead of what they wrote?


Yes.. we are delineating between monitary and non-monitary.
The FAA had determined, and rewrote 61.113(g) in the early 90s to
reflect that (I think it was 1994)
That's why I said it was not allowed.. BEFORE THE REWRITE,, I believe
then it was 61.118 in 1990.
The FAA, with the help of SSA , determinded that a private pilot
logging hours for glider tow, was not compensation.
We are looking for that letter.

T


gotcha. I thought this discussion sounded familiar and sure enough we
went through it on the Pilots of America forum last year.
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum...317#post539317

The eventual conclusion by some there after 5 or so pages of
discussion seemed to be that they determined that the intent of the
FAA was to allow for logging of flight time by private pilots but that
they shouldn't be able to get paid money. Thats all fine and well
with me but I really think the FAA should've just spelled that out in
the regulation instead of using the blanket "compensation" which we
all know can mean flight time or money or any other sort of
compensation.
 




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