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![]() "WaltBJ" wrote in message om... I logged almost 1500 hours in the F102A and its ugly brother the TF. It was a delightful airplane to fly, light on the controls, and was a good formation bird. It had great performance compared with the F94/F86D/F89 group. It could reach about .93 in military and 1.3 in AB properly maintained the radar was every bit as good as the F4's. - when new. Later on it lost some performance due to tired engines. It had good range even clean - 950 miles clean, 1300 with wing tanks. Now for the bad points. 1 - couldn't see back - 60 degree blind cone to rear. 2 - fuel was in two sets of wing tanks - an equalizer was supposed to make sure you ran dry simultaneously. Often it didn't and you had to juggle the boost pumps to keep an equal amount in both wings. Get too busy and you could flame out due to an air bubble from the empty side. 3 - the canopy had to go before you could eject - its metal top precluded ejecting through it. 4 - No guns, not even one. 5 - wrong engine. The J57 was a good engine but the first engine, the Gyron, never made it into service. The second one was the Olympus but it was way delayed. There was about a foot space between the J57 and the inside fuselage . . . 6 - weak gear, limit touchdown at typical landing weights was 540 feet per minute. 7 - no internal air compressor. It used HP air to launch missiles and rockets, start the engine if no 3000 psi Joy unit was around, brakes, and emergency gear extension. The F84F had a compressor, why not the Deuce? 8 - No AIM9 rails - why not? 9- the Deeuce was skinned with 7075ST which was not Alclad and therefore the bird had to be painted to rpevent (alleviate?) corrosion. This added weight and in later days drag from touched up paint jobs. As for a real continental air defense mission - our conclusion was you weren't coming back. Either the prompt radiation from a TNW was going to get you or you were going to have to stop the bomber no matter what. BTW a 20 MT going off 60 miles away from a fighter at 40000 gives the crew something like 3000 rad right now. Air up there is too skinny to soak up the gammas. The delta configuration can be treacherous if you don't watch out. The Deuce could develop one hell of a sink rate if you got too slow. Just pulling the nose up and adding a little bit of power results in a higher sink rate. Getting careless on final approach was dangerous. It could just hold level flight at 115 KIAS and full afterburner with about a 35 degree angle of attack. Getting out of that state required lowering the nose and losing altitude) to reduce the induced drag to where the bird could accelerate. This was insidious because the bird was controllable in all three axes. Pulling power to idle at 115 left you in apparent 'level' flight but the vertical velocity indicator was pegged - downward. Pulling G - it could develop about 6 1/2 G at 300 KIAs - but stay there too long and all your airspeed disappeared real quick. It could fly a tighter overhead pattern than any other century series fighter - pull too many G and the downwind would be in so close it'd take a ninety degree bank to make the base turn. WingCos got red-faced when they saw that. BTW its absolute altitude was 59,000 plus, subsonic in full AB. Got up there once after completing a test hop - had read Jackie Cochrane had set a level flight altitude record in a T38 of something like 54000 and I thought the Deuce could top that. It did, handily. FWIW it was good XC bird and had lots of carry room. There was the main electronic bay behind the cockpit where two guys coudl get in there and close the hatch. I have it on good authority that eight cases of Crown Royal would fit in there. We genrally used the missile bay because we normally didn't take the missiles on cross countries. Some bases (SAC) got huffy if you had ordnance aboard. That's about it - cheers, Walt BJ WOW, I stand corrected. Thank you! Harley |
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