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On May 13, 8:53*am, Luke wrote:
On 05/13/2011 10:00 AM, John Cochrane wrote: --- End Quote --- Hi John, As usual a well written article with interesting points. * From personal experience I do not like the height and time restriction. * *I understand the reasoning behind the rule but I feel that it promotes unsafe flying by making the pilot spend too much time with his head down. *Instead of looking out we are watching the altimeter and watch in order to get a valid start. Thanks for writing the articles, great food for thought. Luke Szczepaniak Yes, it has its limits. But wait until you try circling in the clouds with 50 other gliders, all gaming an unlimited-altitude gate, or dodging the guys diving out of the clouds at VNE to nick a gate with limited altitude but no time or speed limit. Can you think of a better way? That's a serious invitation. John Cochrane I obviously don't have the experience you do, the largest contest I have been in before the implementation of the new rules had about 60 gliders. * The previous situation was much safer as there was a visual reference outside of the cockpit. It is much easier to stay "clear of cloud" rather than trying to stay below "5000 feet" on the altimeter let alone trying to guess what the Flight Recorder is doing. *I rather be at cloud base knowing that the guys up there with me are looking out as opposed to being 1000 feet below the cloud with all of us looking at our altimeters and watches. snip Luke Szczepaniak- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I am not convinced that that" Altimeter and Watchs" statement pans out in actual practice. The only reason you would even consider doing this is because you left the cylinder and then came back to it. Normally only a small percentage of pilots are going to be doing this. And even then it is unlikely you are cruising around the cylinder 50 to 100 feet below the top waiting for your 2 minutes to expire. It is much more likely that you are well below the top of the cylinder looking for a great thermal (Also looking for other gliders) to climb out the top of the cylinder as quickly as possible and get high after leaving the cylinder. If the thermal weakens after leaving you will head on course to find the next thermal. While I like unlimited hieght cylinders, the logic of the limited height cylinder makes more sense to me. The limted hieght cylinder is much more preferable because once you climb out the top you are committed to getting on course quickly. Unlike an unlimited hieght cylinder where everyone is climbing at perhaps only 25ft/min to get maximum hieght for the start, that pretty much ensures a tight gaggle of gliders for much longer period than the two minutes required in the limited start hieght. Then add the limited visibilty due to being near the cloud base to make a bad situation even worse. The unlimited hieght cylinder also puts the last guys to launch at a disadvantage on weaker days because they may not have the time to get the last 1000 feet of altitude at very slow climb rates. Brian HP16T |
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