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Havew the pilots' names been released?
At 21:45 20 June 2011, Nyal Williams wrote: "On a percentage basis this sport is not as safe as I once thought it was. In my short time engaged in soaring, about a year and a half I have read of too many mid-airs and deaths. " There is a world of difference among the choices of hanging around over the airport, going out X/C, and racing in contests. You can choose your level of safety. Paul Bikle once said that to be successful in national contests you must realize that the glider is expendable. At 23:41 19 June 2011, Walt Connelly wrote: 'Chris Nicholas[_2_ Wrote: ;775333']At 15:34 17 June 2011, Walt Connelly wrote: - So FLARM was compulsory, I wonder why if failed to warn the pilots of an impending mid-air? This would be interesting and valuable information. My condolences to the family of the deceased pilot. Walt- It did not necessarily fail to warn them – one or both may have ignored the warnings, perhaps believing that a manoeuvre would avoid collision but it was misjudged. If the two units are not destroyed beyond recovery of stored data, Flarm can, I believe, read the files and replay both sets of data to show what warnings, if any, were given. I have a video clip from Flarm, showing what 2 units would have displayed in a collision had they been operating (the data came from 1 second logger recordings, and Flarm units I understand store the same data and time interval). In the case of that collision, the units both would have given about 6 seconds warning. [For different reasons, one being faulty wiring by a glider manufacturer, neither Flarm was actually working in that particular incident.] If the Flarm units themselves are not readable, but the loggers are, Flarm could do the same as they did for the collision I referred to. If loggers are recording at wider intervals, however, 4 or 11 or whatever seconds, I don’t know how useful that would be. Let’s hope the accident investigators are able to produce something which might be a learning experience for the rest of us, as one outcome of this sad event. Chris N. Good point. Failure to acknowledge and heed the warnings of such a device is a major mistake. I would think that pilots at this level would be more receptive and aware of the potential for ignoring such information. On a percentage basis this sport is not as safe as I once thought it was. In my short time engaged in soaring, about a year and a half I have read of too many mid-airs and deaths. Walt -- Walt Connelly |
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