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At 16:28 29 September 2012, AGL wrote:
One good reason is fiberglass construction, modern airfoils, and heavy=20 gliders. Fly slowly at 1-26 or K-6 speeds, and even a pellet vario can=20 work well. Blast through the thermal at 90-100 knots, full of water ... Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to=20 =20 So, the question becomes, what software is best for what conditions? This = post assumes that the varios input to the software shows true lift without = gusts etc. The PC SeeYou stats showed that on 200 km of distance yesterday, with overd= eveloped cloudbases as low as 2500 ft AGL, average climbs were as low as 1 = knot or zero, getting blown home on wind. Most "circles" showed lift and 4= knot gusts at opposite sides of the circle, and sink everywhere else. Mov= ing to one direction to the other resulted in the same thing with a differe= nt set of short term lift bubbles. That's trying both slow 45 degree banks= , or back and forth sniffing in the bubbly area that had more lift than sin= k. When you're that low you have to do what you have to do. Other people's flights on the OLC that day showed pretty mush the same cond= itions/results, but I didn't see anyone doing the "sniff around" method. Sometimes you just have to fly around a bubbly area that has more lift than= sink, and a 1 minute average lift option on a very weak bubble day would h= elp. That's about the size of a "sniff around" area, which isn't a thermal= at all even if there is more lift than sink. "Last thermal" stats on soft= ware I've used/seen so far stops working as soon as you go straight for any= length of time. So, what I'm saying is that the software development and discussion seems t= o be optimized for classic Texas lift silos on nice days, not for overdevel= oped low weak days when you'r relying on the circulation from latent heat o= f liquidization just under cloudbase. The suggested XCSOAR thermal assistant screen http://bugs.xcsoar.org/raw-at= tachment/ticket/2148/modifiedthermalassistant.png would work well for these= conditions if it would show a one mile sniffing area with bubble clusters,= even if you're flying back and forth rather than circling. The outer ring= would still work for the classic thermal situation. So, I would suggest that Tobias' proposal works for more situations than An= drzej's objection, since not all of us can assume classic thermal silos of = lift on non-classic lift days. Try an LX8000 with track set to display vario (colour coding). Great for sniffing around as you describe, and thermals that shift as you climb. Mike |
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