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On Jun 6, 4:14*pm, Bill D wrote:
"No can do" and "can do with a Personal Unsecured Loan at any reasonable bank" are contradictory statements. *Is it you can't get a loan, or you just don't like the interest rate on offer? Bill - The issue is that aircraft-specific financing companies say "no can do" when they discover the aircraft is a sailplane, not a propeller-driven airplane. I can get loans for propeller-driven aircraft all day long... I find it incredibly odd that they flatly refuse to deal in sailplanes - but will happily finance prop-planes, helicopters, and aircraft kits. They're willing to finance more- complicated, higher-maintenance, more-costly-to-own assets that don't necessarily have the same proven value-retention that Sailplanes do. As for Personal Unsecured Loans: They are a different animal entirely - its not _just_ a matter of interest rates. You're not putting up any collateral, so you've got higher interest-rates _and_ shorter terms. These combine to make monthly payments cost-prohibitive or impractical. Aircraft finance companies will happily do 7-20 _year_ terms for a prop-plane; and at an interest rate that is 25% to 75% _lower_ than a personal unsecured loan (which most banks cap at a 5 year term). Why is it that they won't do the same for a sailplane? Let me put this another way: The reason people can afford homes is because you take out a mortgage. The bank believes in the long-term value of your collateral (your home) and thus is willing to do a very long-term, low-interest-rate loan against it. Could you imagine trying to buy a home on a 5-year loan term, at 10% interest? Its just not practical for that size of asset. Aircraft finance companies treat airplanes in a similar manner to the way banks treat homes. But they _don't_ treat sailplanes in the same manner they treat airplanes. For those recommending LCB (aka LCSB) - please see my NOTE in my original post. I have been told that he is out of the office until Monday. I'm not gonna call the guy's cell phone while he's on vacation or out for personal reasons - I'll call on Monday and confirm my options - but the staff's comments so far make me think its not going to be super-appealing. And if the other bank staff are quoting me improper interest rates or term lengths, then that's a problem they need to address. Finally: Even if LCSB _does_ offer glider loans that are comparable to the aircraft loans we can get for prop-planes, I still find it disturbing/sad that they are the sole major provider. Competition would encourage better pricing (i.e. loan terms) and more choices for consumers. If the business really is that good/profitable for them, why aren't there at least a few other financing companies out there who are willing to make "easy money"? Its not a volume business to be sure, but neither is aircraft financing in general; and easy money is easy money. --Noel |
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