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At 00:34 23 August 2013, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Andrew wrote, On 8/22/2013 9:10 AM: Talking about motor gliders with extending masts and gas engines: all the advantages seem (at least partially) offset by corresponding disadvantages, either physical or psychological. For example, the major convenience of not needing a towplane is partially offset by the usually-greater difficulty and risk of self launching. That is a curious statement. All the motorglider pilots I know think self-launching is easier than towing: - you can taxi to the runway instead of pushing the glider there - the steerable tail wheel means you go where you want to instead of being ballistic during the start of the takeoff roll, and even cross winds are more easily handled - no dropped or mishandled wings due to the wing runner, because you start with a wing tip on the ground, and raise it when you have aerodynamic control - it's easier to fly by yourself instead of following a towplane, especially in turbulent conditions, and you get to go exactly where you want to When it comes to cross-country flying, a large fraction (99%?) of field landings are eliminated with a motor glider, but the "worry element" always remains (motors don't always start, and a field landing in a motor glider will be more difficult and risky). Overall, my experience is that I prefer my motor glider, however the advantages are not as great as I had imagined. If you haven't read my free "Guide to Self-launching Sailplanes" (56 pages), now would be a good time: https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...tions/download -the-guide-1 There should be no more "worry element" than flying an unpowered glider. As fellow motorglider put it: "Plan A is to land in that field/airport; Plan B is the motor starts and I get to go back to soaring. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl Hi Eric, thanks for your comments. I have read your Self-Launching Guidebook many times, and it's invaluable. I'll add my brief comments here towards the points in your message: 1. My experience with my steerable tailwheel is that its a great help at low power settings, taxying out and getting aligned on the runway, but once the tailwheel gets light on the grass, as it always does with full power, I am back to rudder control of heading, and it takes a LOT of rudder in a XW to provide as good a directional control as the pull from a towrope. Maybe it would be better on tarmac, I don't know. My MG manual quotes a demonstrated XW of 11kts. 2. Compared to aerotows, the ease of the stick-and-rudder part of self-launching is clearly little different, but self launching is more difficult in that it requires the MG pilot to additionally perform engine monitoring, management, shutdown. I also use a right- turnout as soon as possible, to remain close to the airport while low. Regarding launch risk, I suspect engine failure is more likely in a MG, and faster reactions would be needed in the event of a low-level power loss. 3. About the 'worry' of field landings. As you say, there are completely logical procedures for staying safe in a MG if a field landing becomes imminent. However I also think it would be very easy to fail to get an extending-mast gas engine up and running, and the unknown risks of any field landing always worry me. The result, for me, is that my MG does not produce the worry-free XC flying I had imagined it would. Overall, I do prefer my MG to a pure glider, mostly because of the freedom from scheduling or waiting for an aerotow. That's a pure advantage that I get every flight, and is very enjoyable. regards andrew |
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