A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Laminar flow over canopy seam?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #6  
Old July 8th 14, 07:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,939
Default Laminar flow over canopy seam?

J. Nieuwenhuize wrote, On 7/7/2014 12:13 PM:
I asked around a bit in Delft. Seems no documented in-flight tests
have been done, at least I couldn't get hold of them. Surprising
given how simple that'd really be, though a respirator might be
advisable...

Problem of course is that in wind tunnels we don't have seems, nor
are levels of ambient turbulence anywhere as low as in the
atmosphere.

I guess Britton is referring to wind tunnels tests like these
performed in Delft?
http://www.dropbox.com/s/354b4wpodglrw7j/Untitled.jpg

There it's just the effect of the wing/fuselage intersection that
pushes the transition point forward.

What I'm wondering about is whether flow over the canopy looks
anything like the above test, or we basically have a mostly turbulent
canopy, with turbulent wedges originating from all over the canopy
seam.

Because if that's the case, a fully flush canopy (that by definition
would have to slide fwd for ingress) would cause a major drag
reduction. Something like the MOBA:
http://www.dropbox.com/s/vozyc6qby8x...bafullview.jpg


Based on a conversation with Gerhard Waibel 10-15 years ago, the modern
glider canopy is almost entirely laminar. The yaw string will cause a
wedge of turbulent flow behind it; consequently, he recommended
attaching the yaw string as far aft as possible.

I've observed evidence of his statement when in flying cool, humid
conditions. A wedge of condensation will form inside the canopy, behind
the yaw sting, but nowhere else (except possibly some of the rearmost
portions of the canopy). I attribute this to the turbulent air cooling
the canopy under it more than the laminar air elsewhere.

It's my understanding a well-done canopy seam at the front does not trip
the laminar flow into turbulent flow, because the expanding
cross-section of the fuselage in that area produces pressure
distributions that promote laminar flow.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Laminar flow demo? CaveLamb Home Built 6 October 28th 10 05:04 PM
Oil for flow vis Steve Leonard Soaring 0 December 6th 07 12:40 AM
Cherokee 140 - LASAR vs. Powerflow vs. Laminar Speed Kit EridanMan Piloting 23 June 29th 06 04:43 PM
Cherokee 140 - LASAR vs. Powerflow vs. Laminar Speed Kit EridanMan Owning 23 June 29th 06 04:43 PM
V8 fuel flow Robert Bates Home Built 34 January 24th 05 03:41 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.