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At 14:15 03 February 2015, Bob Whelan wrote:
Evidently, the original question touched upon "a topic of religion." One church believes that gliders as-received from manufacturers cannot possibly be improved by mere humanity unassociated with the original design process (and to attempt improvement places one in the category of the devil's spawn). The other church believes that use-/age-related issues will inevitably appear, and might (if not should) be reasonably addressed by subsequent owners. True - at least in the U.S. - for sailplanes licensed with (see below) an Approved Type Certificate or licensed Experimentally. In my view, there's sound reasons for both views, and in an ideal world, both can peacefully co-exist. Full disclosu I'm a(n aerospace) degreed (U.S.-based) engineer, but one who's convinced original designers were NOT (all apply): all-knowing; incompetent. In other words, designers and the design team are humans like the rest of us, though with (perhaps) some specialized training, and (definitely) some specialized interests...again normal human conditions. The U.S. is fortunate to have a healthy, vibrant, amateur-built aircraft licensing category, from which - perhaps - some cogent conclusions about this particular religious topic may be drawn. As I type, approximately 20% of the U.S. power, single-engine, 4-or-less seats general aviation fleet is licensed "Experimental Amateur Built" (a presently increasing proportion), the rest having Approved Type Certificates. Taken as a whole, the EAB category accident frequency is (statistically and) significantly higher than the ATC category as measured against fleet/licensing numbers. Unsurprisingly (in my view) the percentages have a significant first-/early-flight bias (for engine/fuel and loss of control reasons, mostly); thoughtful readers can probably make accurate guesses why (an exercise and validation beyond the point I'm trying to make with this post). Once beyond that bubble, EAB and ATC accident rates are (arguably) identical. I expect (but am not certain) accident *causes* are similar as well (when comparing similar classes of pilots/flight, e.g. Visual Flight Rules piloting). My conclusions: 1) "Sound airplane design practices" are not limited solely to factories and their design teams. 2) The weakest link is generally the nut at the top of the stick. Stated another way, pretty much every form of human design screwup/oversight possible in general aviation flying machines (e.g. sailplanes) has been made long, long ago, and "best practices" are pretty much available (and arguably well known) to anyone inclined to learn from others' experiences. We're well beyond the "secret guild stage" of aircraft structural design knowledge, and the "smoke and mirrors" of ignorance-based myths. That knowledge availability, along with the tendency of those geekily inclined (most engineers, and many non-degreed people as well) is why I'm OK with belonging to the Church of Future Improvement is Possible. On the other hand, the World Wide Web has made it easier for everyone (e.g. via YouTube) to easily see that Darwinism remains a potent human genealogical force. Ignorance is potent, often more quickly than knowledge. Hence I'd never try to convince members of the Church of Don't Mess With Factory Stuff to change their beliefs. Clint Eastwood was right: A man's got to know his limitations. Further, who hasn't heard the truism: All generalizations are false...including this one. In my view, there's at least one truism that is NOT false: Perfection is never an option. True in glider design, too. The trick is to know - or at lest to remain within - one's limitations. YMWV Bob W. P.S. I believe Dick Johnson was a degreed aeronautical engineer. His entire working life was spent in the engineering field, and his extracurricular soaring-and-sailplane-design-and-testing-related body of work was prodigious. He likely passed on from heart failure in his mid-eighties while flying the Ventus he owned for decades - the one in which he drilled lube access holes. Make of all that what works for yourself! Up until today I was firmly of the opinion that EASA and their regulation was an unnecessary imposition on gliding. I had always believed that no-one who flew a type certified glider would make structural modifications without consulting the type certificate holder and obtaining their approval for a modification, I simply did not believe that anyone could be THAT irresponsible. I seems I was wrong, which is nothing new. I suppose that EASA is a necessary evil while there are those who think that such behavior is acceptable. What worries me most is that these actions are taken by people who are described as well respected and qualified engineers. It certainly increases my understanding of the attitude of EASA to FAA licensed engineers. I am well aware that in the past such modifications were made to simple wood and fabric constructed gliders, cutting and patching a hole in fabric or indeed metal skins is a completely different matter to drilling holes in a GRP structure, the best that can be said is that such action has not failed, YET, or maybe not. To say that a course of action is ok because A.N Other did it and got away with it is not safe practice, especially when it encourages those without knowledge to try an "inspired" fix. If you can produce a note of compliance, a relevant AD or tech note, from the type certificate holder I will of course take it all back. |
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