Not to sound like an F-22 cheerleader but I thought this was interesting. . .

"Tom Cooper" wrote in message
...
I wonder why they demonstrate the abilities of f22 aganist f15 (not
designed to
detect stealth targets) and use demonstration results in their PR
campaign?
Why not aganist silent sentry which is designed to detect and track
stealth
targets?

Because the existence of "Grey Bears" is still an official secret, so
they
can't talk about F-22 vs MiG-29/Su-27 testing.

And you would be claiming that these "official secret" adversary
aircraft
have "silent sentry"..?

No, just you're running in the front of the car, and so have failed to
understand what that means.

The statement you were responding to asked, "Why not aganist silent sentry
which is designed to..." and you offered a "Because..." answer. So are you
buying nto this "silent sentry" bit being outfitted onto Russian aircraft
like the Mig-29 and Su-27 or not?


Have you never heard about the Grey Bears as USAF unit?

Heck even Germans and Brits knew during WWII that significant
backscatterer
reductions were possible by hard body shaping but forward scatterer
reduction
was not.
Now US is learning hard way what Brits and Germans knew sixty years
ago,after
spending zillions of dollars for a dead end technology.

Thats the difference between advanced Nations and advanced
Countries.

Should that still be a surprise - after the F/A-18E/F step back?

The USAF and the USN are just re-inventing air-to-air, after they
realized
that the F-22 might otherwise get cancelled, and it could happen they
to
sit
there with F-22s and Super Horrors and have nothing to tackle all the
Flankers and PAK-FAs any more.

I don't know what is scarier--the thought that you actually think the
USN
has joined in this alleged "evil cabal" to save the F/A-22, or the fact
that
you are agreeing with a two-ton loon like Denyav in the first place.
Would
that be "aviation journalist", or "aviation fantasist"?

Again the same problem as above: that should have meant "F-15" instead of
"F-22", i.e. it was a typo, but you're so fast in attempting to make me
look
silly, you don't even notice this.

You have lumped the USN into the "save the F/A-22" cabal you posited with
your, "The USAF and the USN are just re-inventing air-to-air..." bit. Pray
tell what the USN's big piece of the F/A-22 fight is?

Brooks


Well, I certainly do hope you feel better now. In the meantime I'll
continue
reading US and other reports about USAF and USN scrambling to pick up in
the
air-to-air race, after being bushwacked on other international
exercises....

Tom Cooper
Freelance Aviation Journalist & Historian
Vienna, Austria

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Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php

Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S7875

Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6585

African MiGs
http://www.acig.org/afmig/

Arab MiG-19 & MiG-21 Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...=S6550~ser=COM

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