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Old February 11th 16, 09:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bruce Hoult
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Default Slips in turns and landing with winglets

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 4:09:52 AM UTC+3, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 8:03:15 PM UTC-5, Bob Caldwell (BC) wrote:
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 3:09:42 PM UTC-7, wrote:
I know this is a silly question, but I was reading an article by Dick Johnson that talked about holding a slight slip while thermally. This article was written before winglets and I was wondering if the same idea applied to gliders with winglets. Also, as for slipping to lose altitude for landing in a glider with winglets, does this place a lot of side load on the winglets. Should you not slip in landing with winglets?

Sorry for the questions, but would appreciate any help in this.


There are two other considerations:

A. The side of the fuselage meeting the airflow in a slight slip produces some lifting force.
And:
B: A bit of top rudder reduces the back pressure on the stick needed to hold your turn. That reduces the induced drag at the horizontal.

So what do you think?

Bob


I think both are a crock of stuff. Lift is better generated by a wing and top rudder only serves to make the turn rate lower than it should be for the bank angle.


The best LD ratio of the side of a fuselage is not very good, but if it's heading directly into the airflow then the lift is zero but there is still drag, which makes the LD ratio zero. Having just a little bit of yaw giving just a little bit of lift does not significantly affect the drag, so that first little bit of extra lift is for free.
 




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