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Old July 2nd 04, 05:49 PM
Denyav
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Churchill, all the decoded messages placed in the public arena.
Stimson, the Japanese must fire first. Dulles a claimed quote,
Hoover no quote at all presente



Churchill:"..from the end of 1940 the Americans had pierced the vital Japanase
ciphers and were decoding large numbers of their Military and diplomatic
telegrams"

FDR:"The war starts tomorrow"
Dec.6,1941

As I said before being a custodian of conspiracies is a tough job nowadays.
See any Pearl Harbor conspiracies there?


Yeah right,nobody sees anything.
Translation if a person in public life tells a lie about being given
a speeding ticket, they must be clearly responsible for mass murder.


Translation if a public person or official tells a capital lie about Pearl
Harbor,there is no reason to believe that they are telling truth about other
similar incidents,for example 9/11.

Denyav is having trouble coping with the idea the work on the A code
stopped after it went out of service while work picked up on the B code.


Congrulations you have finally accepted that recovery work did not stop in
March or April 1941 but actually accelerated.

1) It was not Safford.
2) It appears the quote is about a specific case in 1943.


It was Safford it refers to whole JN25B decoding process.Yes folks, Denyav
needs a fact so he creates one, the number of groups

recovered was around 3,800 to 1 December 1941.


Just add up your own monthly recovery numbers after April 41 without trying to
hide the numbers behind some definition walls,you will find a totally different
number,and this number will be very close to 10000.

Yes folks Denyav now needs to invent a whole new history. Apparently
the fact the contribution allied intercepts and code breaking made has
been known for decades has to be rewritten.


You are excellent in contradicting yourself.
How the Allies that,according to your own statements,were so incapable of
reading JN25B messages prior to Pearl Harbor,became so sophisticated and
efficient code breakers right after Pearl Harbor.
How did this miracle happen,with the help of Mr.Willshaws outer space aliens
maybe?

The ability of the USN to read the IJN codes gave them the best
chance yet to ambush the IJN.


Heck,wasn't it the SAME USN that was unable to read any JN25B messages only a
few months ago?
I guess USN recruited outer space aliens as code breakers right after Pearl
Harbor

Yes folks Denyav does not have a clue, and needs to debate himself
to avoid the facts. Reality says the allies knew how JN-25B worked
in December 1941 but lacked enough code group meanings to


Nice use of detractors,Allies knew how JN25B worked already in December
1940,not in December 1941.
There is one full year difference and Allies did go to hibernating in December
1940.
to figure out Midway and Coral Sea? Or that the all knowing intelligence
system missed the IJN battleships coming out at Midway and the way
the IJN carriers came [into the Coral Sea behind the US carriers.]

Wasn't Midway a victory of superior intelligence gathering?

 




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