sunlight readable iphone

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 9:19:32 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
I doubt consumer electronics will ever be suitable as a cockpit
display under a bubble canopy.Â* They're designed mainly for
teen-aged girls who sit in McDonald's and poke at them with their
thumbs all day.Â* Under those lighting conditions they're perfectly
adequate.Â* And who cares about the UI?Â* Do you want to poke at the
display during your entire flight or simply set it and forget it?



I'm far from expert in display technology, but I have a little bit
of experience having tried and replaced many consumer products
before settling on what I have now.Â* I've tried the Mio (total waste
outside a darkened room), Samsung Galaxy II (wonderful, vibrant
colors, but useless in sunlight), Motorola Moto-X (great phone, but
useless outside), Nexus-7 (same, same), Dell Streak 5 (perfectly
readable in direct sunlight but occasionally has to be shadowed with
the hand).Â* The Streak 5 uses a TFT display which seems to be
exactly what's needed for our use but is prohibitively expensive for
the consumer market.Â* Dell quickly retired the Streak 5, probably
for that reason.



If you have the knowledge and skills to roll your own, so to speak,
take a look at something like THIS.






On 9/18/2017 10:29 PM, jfitch wrote:



On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:


I'll stack my ClearNav II display or my Dynon D10a against your iPhone
any day of the week.Â* Or are we only talking phone displays?

On 9/18/2017 11:17 AM, jfitch wrote:


On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 5:43:50 AM UTC-7, krasw wrote:


All smartphones with glossy display are just useless mirrors in cockpit, no matter what the nits are. Just look at avionics industry, all displays have non-reflective matte surface, for a reason.


glossy displays. It isn't that simple. My iPhone 6 plus looks quite glossy when turned off, but has no more reflection problems than the matt faced Oudie. You can add a matt overlay onto the phone, but it makes no difference (makes it worse, actually). These phones have very fancy coatings, the latest ones absorb something like 95% of the incident light. The technology in an iPhone far exceeds anything in the aircraft industry. In fact Apple buys more aluminum than the entire aircraft industry. When ramping up the iPhone 7 they were said to be shipping the equivalent weight of aluminum in a B747 every 23 hours in iPhone housings.

I have flown a number of flights with the Oudie/V2/Avier and the iPhone 6 plus side by side on the panel, both running. Most of the time the iPhone is as good or better. The only time the Oudie clearly wins is when you are pointed into the sun, your iris closes down, you are wearing dark glasses. Then the slightly brighter Oudie wins. An iPhone 6 Plus tests at around 550 nits. The Oudie is claimed to be 1000. At sun angles when reflections are a problem, they are equally a problem on both.

I'm looking forward to buying an iPhone X when they come out.


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Dan, 5J


The problem with the Clear Nav and Dynon displays is that they run exclusively ClearNav and Dynon software. If you are happy with that, and continue to be happy where ever they lead you at whatever price, then you a "s*****g in tall cotton" as they say down south. If you want a non-proprietary solution with the ability to pick the software you want to run and upgrade whenever you chose, then consumer electronics based hardware is the way to go. Neither is Right - just Different. The OP started the thread talking about iPhones. The UI on iPhone apps is miles and decades ahead, if you are sensitive to that sort of thing.





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Dan, 5J

Well I do care about the UI. Doesn't sound like you have tried any of the more modern phones we are talking about. Most of the software offerings in soaring - no matter what the platform - do about the same things in feature set. It is UI and presentation that differentiates.