Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:20:22 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 5:43:08 AM UTC-7, Squeaky wrote:
'WaltWX[_2_ Wrote:
;957147']On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 5:22:24 AM UTC-7, Rich Owen
wrote:-
All military aircraft have transponders and we do show up on on
civilian equipment.-

I agree with JS... and have come to my own conclusion that not all these
fighters are squawking with a transponder.

Sure hope that DOD budget can afford ADS-B out 1090ES for all their
equipment.

OK, fyi... All fighters have transponders. FYI only the LEAD aircraft
squawks for the formation. If you encounter numbers 2-4 leaving the
range and flying at a speed to catch up to lead aircraft who is climbing
out or transiting airspace at the normal 300kt IAS, the wingman will be
faster. Quite often, in tactical formation, the spread between aircraft
can be two nm. So you can encounter a fighter not squawking because he
is a wingman, and you may not see the lead/squawking aircraft because of
the distance away. And the lead aircraft WILL have his transponder on.

The military is dealing with how to comply with ADSB. However, the
military budget has been crap since 2013, and frankly we do not have the
money to upgrade the aircraft and also keep them combat capable. We
desire to do both, but we do not have the money, but it is the plan.




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Squeaky

The 2 military jets that flew over Hot Springs just east of Warner Springs a week ago did not show up on my Flarm display. They may have X-ponders but they were not squawking if they had them.
Steve

I bet that the low altitude military jet's transponder is not being triggered by ATC surveillance radar... and that may be the reason we're not seeing them on PowerFlarm PCAS.

In my near miss case near China Lake, CA posted earlier, I KNOW that radar was good at that location. So, there are a variety of reasons fighter may not show up on PCAS... including that formations turn it off except for the leader or trailer.

How does that sound Rich?

Walt WX