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Old November 5th 03, 04:18 PM
José Herculano
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AESA?

Someone needs to write a FAQ for this group, if there isn't one
already...:-(


That's the bells&whistles version of the APG-79 radar, that does everything
from air-to-air to air-to-ground to jamming. Needs the ACS (advanced crew
stations) to be effective.
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Old November 5th 03, 04:31 PM
Jose M. Alvarez
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AESA=Active Electronically Scanned Array

"John Penta" escribió en el mensaje
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:50:10 GMT, "Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal"
wrote:


I'd agree with you all the way up to the air-to-air mission. Most of the
Tomcat converts I know claim that the RIO sucked SA away from the

pilot...
BUT when AESA comes on line, and the folks at Boeing split up the

cockpit,
the WSO in will have plenty to do that the pilot would never be able to
handle by himself.

--Woody


AESA?

Someone needs to write a FAQ for this group, if there isn't one
already...:-(

John



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Old November 6th 03, 01:48 AM
Mike Kanze
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John,

There isn't one, mainly because most of the folks contributing to this NG
"lived the life". I realize that this can be confusing to someone
unfamiliar with aviation and military acronyms, but that's how we learned to
communicate among one another. (No different than the "tongues" spoken
among technology professionals in Silicon Valley.)

For a very general dictionary of Naval aviation terms, go to
http://www.tailhook.org/AVSLANG.htm.

The above link won't answer your weapon-specific question, though.

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"John Penta" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:50:10 GMT, "Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal"
wrote:


I'd agree with you all the way up to the air-to-air mission. Most of the
Tomcat converts I know claim that the RIO sucked SA away from the

pilot...
BUT when AESA comes on line, and the folks at Boeing split up the

cockpit,
the WSO in will have plenty to do that the pilot would never be able to
handle by himself.

--Woody


AESA?

Someone needs to write a FAQ for this group, if there isn't one
already...:-(

John



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Old November 6th 03, 10:37 PM
Ogden Johnson III
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John Penta wrote:

"Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal" wrote:


I'd agree with you all the way up to the air-to-air mission. Most of the
Tomcat converts I know claim that the RIO sucked SA away from the pilot...
BUT when AESA comes on line, and the folks at Boeing split up the cockpit,
the WSO in will have plenty to do that the pilot would never be able to
handle by himself.


AESA?

Someone needs to write a FAQ for this group, if there isn't one
already...:-(


It is humanly impossible for *anyone*, individually or severally, to
keep current with DoD, much less an entire government bureaucracy's,
acronyms and nLAs*. Add in those of foreign governments and agencies
and even Hercules would be loath to undertake the task.

[*nLAs = Two, Three, Four, Five, however-many, Letter Abbreviations]
[It is a base canard that a Presidential Medal of Freedom and a $100K
bonus await the first swivel servant to create a Twenty Letter
Abbreviation]
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Old November 5th 03, 04:22 PM
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Jose- And remember that the current squadrons deploying at sea with the
F/A-18F
have rear cockpits that are barely different from the front ones... the
advanced rear cockpit is yet to fly operationaly. I don't believe the F can
turn a real advantage over the E. BRBR

Kinda like the F-15E??? No?
P. C. Chisholm
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Old November 6th 03, 08:03 PM
John S. Shinal
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"José Herculano" wrote:

Guess I was not literate enough on my point... what I meant is that I do not
believe on the advantages of the F/A-18F vs the F/A-18E. If such advanced
weapons systems as the two Air Force birds allow for a revolucionary fighter
to be flown by one, and a huge bomber just by two, there is no call for a
twin-seat Super-Bug.


For Strike you are probably right. I think the F (and G) are
probably going to end up being SEAD/ESM tasked a lot though, much like
the TARPS trained crews are specialists now in the Tomcat squadrons.
They probably don't need the second seat to use the new PGW with the
systems as good as they are now.



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Old November 5th 03, 04:19 PM
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Jose- Looking at what an F/A-22 (single seater) and a B-2 (twin-seater) can
do, I
find it harder and harder to justify a thing like an F/A-18F. BRBR

But how ya gonna get that thing to sit off a coastline, no friendly airbase w/i
1000 miles and 'rattle the saber'???

Geeezzz, a squadron of B-2s(6) cost the same as a CV and airwing.
P. C. Chisholm
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Old November 5th 03, 06:37 PM
José Herculano
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But how ya gonna get that thing to sit off a coastline, no friendly
airbase w/i
1000 miles and 'rattle the saber'???


Hombre, I was playing the one-seater vs the two-seater. The Air Force birds
were for comparison in that.

Although I wouldn't mind seeing a navalized F/A-22, but I believe that will
happen, as it is said here, in the afternoon of St Never's day.
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Old November 6th 03, 02:44 PM
Pechs1
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Jose- Although I wouldn't mind seeing a navalized F/A-22, but I believe that
will
happen, as it is said here, in the afternoon of St Never's day. BRBR

Ya kinda are going to-with the JSF...kinda.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
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Old November 5th 03, 07:23 PM
Jim
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"Pechs1" wrote in message
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Jose- Looking at what an F/A-22 (single seater) and a B-2 (twin-seater)

can
do, I
find it harder and harder to justify a thing like an F/A-18F. BRBR

But how ya gonna get that thing to sit off a coastline, no friendly

airbase w/i
1000 miles and 'rattle the saber'???

Geeezzz, a squadron of B-2s(6) cost the same as a CV and airwing.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye

Phlyer

Not to mention Show the flag, and project power... How does a stealh bomber
show the flag,
If you don't know it is there how does it project power? Oh How many months
can the B-2 remain on station Ready to answer the bell.




Jim


 




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