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Old January 16th 04, 03:37 AM
RobertR237
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In article , John Ousterhout
writes:


If you don't like the US media here perhaps you'd prefer the Red
Chinese media :-)

Compared to the others, ours is great.

- John (grading on the curve) Ousterhout -



No, just a choice of bad or worse.

Bob Reed
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KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old January 16th 04, 10:39 PM
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Kind of like the presidential candidates...all of them.

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Dan D.



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"RobertR237" wrote in message ...
In article , John Ousterhout
writes:


If you don't like the US media here perhaps you'd prefer the Red
Chinese media :-)

Compared to the others, ours is great.

- John (grading on the curve) Ousterhout -



No, just a choice of bad or worse.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)



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Old January 16th 04, 11:19 PM
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In article om, "Blueskies"
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Kind of like the presidential candidates...all of them.

--
Dan D.



I would agree with that statement 100 %.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old January 15th 04, 08:22 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
So many people over at rec.aviation.piloting were so proud that their emails
and calls prompted yet another network type to come out and do a response at
their airport.


much snipped

CJ,

Would you be so kind as to help me out with the links (or the
names of the posters and subject lines) of these "so many people"?

I think I may have seen one post making the suggestion but none
from people who actually did it, and I'd really like to read
them.

Thanks a bunch! You can email me, hoeltzli at swbell dot net
if you prefer.

I don't know if the manager of the airport CBS quoted got "taken"
or not. He seems to have some different views than I would have
expected -- but then, I do take the point that one can be asked
leading questions or have the context left on the cutting room floor.

My advice: never talk to a reporter. Never cooperate.


Well, this pretty much 100% guarantees what side of the story
will be presented.

Cheers,
Sydney
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Old January 15th 04, 09:30 PM
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"Snowbird" wrote in message
om...
| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
| So many people over at rec.aviation.piloting were so proud that their
emails
| and calls prompted yet another network type to come out and do a
response at
| their airport.
|
| much snipped
|
| CJ,
|
| Would you be so kind as to help me out with the links (or the
| names of the posters and subject lines) of these "so many people"?
|

Jim Burns said that a local affiliate was on its way out to his airport.
Other posters thought it was a good idea and it has been a recurring theme
that the best way to get news support is to call local news people and take
them for free rides, etc.

| I think I may have seen one post making the suggestion but none
| from people who actually did it, and I'd really like to read
| them.
|
| Thanks a bunch! You can email me, hoeltzli at swbell dot net
| if you prefer.
|
| I don't know if the manager of the airport CBS quoted got "taken"
| or not. He seems to have some different views than I would have
| expected -- but then, I do take the point that one can be asked
| leading questions or have the context left on the cutting room floor.
|
| My advice: never talk to a reporter. Never cooperate.
|
| Well, this pretty much 100% guarantees what side of the story
| will be presented.

The same side that would be presented if you did not grant the interview,
but at least you would be spared the embarrassment of either appearing to
agree with everything they say or being made to look like a fool.


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Old January 15th 04, 11:38 PM
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C J Campbell wrote:

My advice: never talk to a reporter. Never cooperate.


So you'll turn your back when someone from "AOPA Pilot"
or "Sport Aviation" wants to talk to you? Should
Phil Boyer follow this advice as well and not rebut
hatchet jobs? No letters to editors either?
Maybe we shouldn't post here either?

I'm no big fan of mainstream media (and I have on
occasion attempted to disrupt local news crews g),
but I recognize that there are times when potentially good
reports can turn bad when the community clams up.

Dave 'knee-jerk' Hyde

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Old January 16th 04, 03:02 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news |
|
| I watched the hit piece. IMHO, the Eagle's Nest people got taken -- they
| probably invited CBS in, hoping that they would make a feature putting
| the "threat" into perspective.
|

Shows like "60 Minutes" thrive on this kind of optimism. They tell their
victims "We can do this with you or without you, but if you cooperate you
will get to tell your side of the story." Sure you do. They just won't air
the part that tells your side of the story. And yet people still think after
years of this nonsense that they can still beat the network smear goons at
their own game. Just goes to show there is a sucker born every minute.

....or, in the apparent case of 60 Minutes II reporter Bob Simon, you
do a piece on white collar crime, specifically wire fraud, computer
crimes, identity theft, using EBay to move "hot merchandise" ad
nauseum, telling the world (or at least the 60 Minutes II audience)
how bad these people are and how easy it is to commit these crimes.
THEN, you apparently provide bail and pay for the best (and highest
priced) attorney in Phoenix who specializes in defending people
accused of those types of crimes(Tim Eckstein of the firm of Osborn
Maledon) because YOUR BROTHER, Tom Simon, was arrested, after a high
speed chase which ended in a crash on 5 November 2003, for the very
things you "exposed" on 60 Minutes.

FMI on Tom Simon: http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2003-026367

and

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2003-024607

I wonder if Mr. Orr has a brother who flies?

EBW
 




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