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"Mike Granby" wrote in message ... "Larry Smith" wrote: "Might" have could mean a 1 in 3 chance, which is insufficient to get the case to the jury. I'm puzzled by this statement. As I understand it, the burden of proof for civil cases is the balance of probabilities, Correct. Proof by the greater weight of the evidence, or a preponderance of the evidence, or by tipping the scales in favor of the plaintiff. so if there's better than a 1 in 2 chance that things are as the plaintiff claims, then his case is made. But you appear to be saying that a similar test will be applied to establish whether the case would even come before a jury, which seems a awfully high hurdle for a civil case. Usually judges let even flimsy cases go to the jury but if the plaintiff is playing with 33% of the marbles and the defendant has 67%, the judge will step in and dismiss sooner or later. That's my experience, even though the judge waits until ALL the evidence is in, or even until after a verdict for the plaintiff. The rule, at the end of the plaintiff's evidence and upon motion to dismiss by the defendant, is that if the plaintiff has failed to show evidence of each of the elements of his case, he is subject to dismissal. The court, if it finds by considering the evidence in the light most favorable to the plaintiff that the plaintiff has failed to establish he is entitled to relief, may enter an order of dismissal against the plaintiff. So let's assume that each of the plaintiff's witnesses testifies that X could have occurred or might have occurred, instead of saying that it in fact DID occur, you won't get THAT to the jury. I know that some criminal cases have to meet this test in preliminary hearings, but that makes sense, as the burden of proof in the case is much higher ie. beyond a reasonable doubt. I thought you could only get a civil case struck out (and thereby prevent it coming before the jury) if you could show that the case has no chance of succeeding even if all the facts fall so as to favor the plaintiff? The point is that a plaintiff must affirmatively produce evidence to support his allegations sounding in tort against the FAA by competent evidence. When a judge dismisses at the end of the plaintiff's evidence, and he does it quite often in my neck of the woods, it's not only because the plaintiff's case has suffered a fatal flaw in an element of proof but also because his evidence preponderates against a verdict any jury might award him. There are a whole battery of motions a plaintiff must withstand before he collects, and his case had better be better than "might have occurred" or he ain't going to collect. This law isn't so much written in the books as it is in the history of lawyering. I'm not a lawyer, I'm not either. I quit practicing some time ago. But I tried quite a few jury cases in civil and criminal courts, and it's not like rolling dice or showing that a state of facts may have existed. so I could easily be 100% wrong here, but I'd welcome some clarification so I might better understand the procedures involved. I believe you have a good grasp of what it takes to get past an order of dismissal and get the case to the jury. Plus you have a good grasp of the difference in the burden of proof in a civil case and a criminal case. -- Mike Granby, PP-ASEL,IA Warrior N44578 http://www.mikeg.net/plane |
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