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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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plumb bob wrote:

Excuse me. All you indignant little punks don't realize that Jay Honeck
is,
by far, the biggest commercial whore on this newsgroup yet you don't
challenge him.

Jay makes a lot of good contributions to this group. You, on the other
hand, seem
to be simply a foul-mouthed SOB.

You also seem to be a few degrees off plumb, Bob.

Then it seems that I have made my point. One guy gets blasted for posting
commercial content, the other does not. Are you the annointed keeper of this
newsgroup? Or is that Jim Weir, who seems to think that he is a major
contributor to the world at large?

"plumb bob" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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plumb bob wrote:

Excuse me. All you indignant little punks don't realize that Jay
Honeck
is,
by far, the biggest commercial whore on this newsgroup yet you don't
challenge him.

Jay makes a lot of good contributions to this group. You, on the other
hand, seem
to be simply a foul-mouthed SOB.

You also seem to be a few degrees off plumb, Bob.

Then it seems that I have made my point. One guy gets blasted for posting
commercial content, the other does not. Are you the annointed keeper of
this
newsgroup? Or is that Jim Weir, who seems to think that he is a major
contributor to the world at large?

I, too, have noticed that some here seem to have claimed squatters rights.

In article vYjNb.53343$sv6.129316@attbi_s52, plumb bob wrote:

Excuse me. All you indignant little punks don't realize that Jay Honeck is,
by far, the biggest commercial whore on this newsgroup yet you don't
challenge him. Personally, I don't have a problem - the man has to make a
living and I kind of like him except that he likes to bring up his knuckle
dragger conservasheep politics occasionally.

As I see it, Jay is offering a unique product and
trying to give something back to the group while he's doing it.
However he does it, he manages to be entertaining and (in
spite of politics) pretty inoffensive while doing it.

There's a fine line between spam and entertainment, and I
can't define it--but like art, I know what I like. And I like
Jay and intend to visit him sometime.

Mike Beede

"Mike Beede" wrote in message
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As I see it, Jay is offering a unique product and
trying to give something back to the group while he's doing it.

Well, hand buzzers and whoopee cushions are not what the group needs or
wants.

"plumb bob" wrote in message
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Excuse me. All you indignant little punks don't realize that Jay Honeck
is,
by far, the biggest commercial whore on this newsgroup ...
[snip]
-- Plumb Bob (straight up opinions, screw the PC police and you too if you
disagree)

Jay Honeck posts are mostly on-topic, and interesting to me. While not yet
among those who have attained pilot status, my dream still lives; and if I
can stay "on plan" next year should be the year to begin.

Mr. Honeck's posts usually stimulate some discussion regarding aviation.
Others add to the dimension and considerable useful information is passed.
I've learned from these posts, and isn't this one of the goals of a
newsgroup? The fact that he also promotes his *aviation-related* business
is a small part of his posts, and certainly not worthy of plumb bob's
gutter speak.

OTOH, "plumb bob" whoever that is, generally has something negative, or
rude, or crude to say about another poster, or public figure, or newsgroup
policy. A quick Google search revealed such pleasantries from bob as:
"Them people on thah nuze groops just sez I gotta connect dis wire overhere.
I saved me a buck 'cos I shortzed the AP!"Idiot!or:
Hey moron. The temperature on any given day is not an indicator of an
increase (or decrease) of average global temperature. ****, you people
areTOTALLY retarded and:

You forgot. His real name is "Rene Steuben" a Republican paid whore and
liar.

Some may find this endearing, or mildly entertaining. However, it seems to
add little to the purpose of any newsgroup; about who's rules he
occasionally seems adamant. Maybe bob's attitude has deteriorated a lot
since he stopped smoking. Let's all wish him the best on that endeavor, and
maybe when he's sufficiently detoxified he'll be more charitable to those
who don't meet his standard of perfection.


VideoGuy

Some may find this endearing, or mildly entertaining. However, it seems
to
add little to the purpose of any newsgroup; about who's rules he
occasionally seems adamant. Maybe bob's attitude has deteriorated a lot
since he stopped smoking. Let's all wish him the best on that endeavor,
and
maybe when he's sufficiently detoxified he'll be more charitable to those
who don't meet his standard of perfection.

Hi Guys -- Jay "Smile when you call me 'whore!'" Honeck here. I'd just like
to add a few words to this somewhat bizarre discussion.

First off, the "$100 Hamburger" page was the first truly useful aviation
website I ever visited. To this day it actually performs a service that I,
as a traveling pilot, long for and desperately need. For this, I thank
John Purner, and wish him nothing but the best.

Secondly, Jim Weir has contributed more useful information to this newsgroup
than any ten of us combined. He does it with gentle (okay, sometimes not so
gentle!) good humor, a biting wit, and a thousand years of experience.
While he can be occasionally abrasive, I think I speak for Jim when I say
I'm sure it's all well-meant. Hell, without him, I'd still be hauling car
gas to the hangar in 5-gallon cans... ;-)

Third, our Plumb Bob seems to be yet another reincarnation of several
long-past, long-lost anonymous trolls. I can't quite remember all of his
previous stage names, but the attitude, inability to communicate in a civil
fashion, and general sour nature of his posts ring familiar to my ears.

Does the name "Machogrande" ring a bell with anyone else here?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Third, our Plumb Bob seems to be yet another reincarnation of several
long-past, long-lost anonymous trolls. I can't quite remember all of his
previous stage names, but the attitude, inability to communicate in a
civil
fashion, and general sour nature of his posts ring familiar to my ears.

Does the name "Machogrande" ring a bell with anyone else here?

Jay,

Of course I am a troll. But I am not "Machogrande".

Plumb Bob

P.S. How is the "Mars Suite" coming along?

"plumb bob" wrote in message
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Of course I am a troll. But I am not "Machogrande".

Well, you're also into the bozo bin!

[ Tomahawk slam PLONK]

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"plumb bob" wrote in message
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Of course I am a troll. But I am not "Machogrande".

Well, you're also into the bozo bin!

[ Tomahawk slam PLONK]

Terrific. This is what most trolls try to achieve.

Plumb Bob

P.S. Most people do not say "plonk" these days (well, unless they are men
devoid of manly equipment, if you know what I mean). The appropriate
response is to kill file the offending poster and not mention it with a
girly "plonk" comment.

VideoGuy wrote:

maybe when he's sufficiently detoxified he'll be more charitable to those
who don't meet his standard of perfection.

I have some ocean front property in Valdosta, Georgia I'd like to sell you.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."