Petition for keeping one Concorde flying

The planes airworthiness certificate relies upon the manufacturer to support
it. They have stated their refusal to do that. The many spitfires etc,
flying around use very basic (1930's) technology and are no more difficult
to keep in the air logistically than a cessna or piper - more expensive
though!

Concorde is a huge leap in technology and the cost of maintaining just one
would far outweigh the income it could derive from shows. Without it's
certificate, it can never carry passengers. Besides, many of the museums are
building special halls to accomodate concorde, do you think they'll let it
go out for a run whenever it wants?

I would love to see one flying, but be realistic, it's not going to happen.
:-(

John

"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
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"David Wright" wrote in message
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And, isn't it a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has
bolted?
All the Concorde's have gone, or are going, to their new static homes -
there isn't a Concorde left to fly is there??

Well, they've (mostly) flown there and been put in a hangar. They haven't
been taken apart or anything like that as far as I know. Ignoring the
legalities, I would guess you could, for example, bring AF out of the
hangar at Filton, fuel it up and fly it tomorrow. Or today even... :-)
Maybe they've drained the oil, don't know...

One of them (AB?) is still at Heathrow, standing out on the tarmac.
This one hasn't had the kevlar liners put in the fuel tanks.

By the way, we (at Brooklands museum) hope to get BBDG in March
or maybe April.

http://www.concordesst.com/

Paul

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 13:02:37 +0000, Paul Sengupta wrote:

"David Wright" wrote in message
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Don't know if you know about this, but the petition to keep Concorde
flying is going to change. The emphasis is now going to be on keeping
one airworthy to be used at airshows, etc.

Oh dear, why bother - it's obvious that it's not going to happen. No
petition of any size is going to influence Airbus! There is no cost
benefit
from flying a Concorde for airshows is there?

Maybe not. But then there isn't to keep Spirfires or Lancasters or
Hurricanes or Hunters flying, or returning Vulcans, Lightnings or
Buccaneers to the air.



What about fast taxi runs? The Cold War jets at Bruntingthorpe are
regularly wheeled out to be bombed down the runway to the delight of the
thousands who turn up for every open day there. No COA or anything
required. So why not the same with Concorde?

Of course the biggest obstacle to keeping classic jets flying in this
country is the CAA. That's why if you want to see Buccs and Lightnings
flying you have to travel to South Africa. A national disgrace if ever
there was one.

K

Paul Sengupta wrote:

"David Wright" wrote in message
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Don't know if you know about this, but the petition to keep Concorde
flying is going to change. The emphasis is now going to be on keeping
one airworthy to be used at airshows, etc.


Oh dear, why bother - it's obvious that it's not going to happen. No
petition of any size is going to influence Airbus! There is no cost

benefit

from flying a Concorde for airshows is there?


Maybe not. But then there isn't to keep Spirfires or Lancasters or
Hurricanes or Hunters flying, or returning Vulcans, Lightnings or
Buccaneers to the air.


The difference is that what Concorde does that's so impressive -- fly
supersonic in the high flight levels -- doesn't really provide good
theater at air shows, the way restored warbirds do.

"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
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The difference is that what Concorde does that's so impressive -- fly
supersonic in the high flight levels -- doesn't really provide good
theater at air shows, the way restored warbirds do.

True, but it does provide a great airshow performance too!

Paul - Fairford '92.

Paul Sengupta wrote:
TTA Cherokee Driver wrote:

The difference is that what Concorde does that's so impressive -- fly
supersonic in the high flight levels -- doesn't really provide good
theater at air shows, the way restored warbirds do.

True, but it does provide a great airshow performance too!

s/does/did/

:-(

http://www.save-concorde.co.uk

Sounds like tilting at wind-mills, Paul... :-(

We'd all love to see one fly again, but it isn't going to happen by
petition.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

No, maybe not. But someone somewhere may see how much
support there is, so it may help. It's not a "hey, we demand you
keep it flying" sort of petition, it's more a "we'd support any
person or organisation that has a plan", or a "come on guys, look
how people love this machine" sort of thing.

Paul

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:fTrTb.204504$I06.2255572@attbi_s01...
http://www.save-concorde.co.uk

Sounds like tilting at wind-mills, Paul... :-(

We'd all love to see one fly again, but it isn't going to happen by
petition.

"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
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No, maybe not. But someone somewhere may see how much
support there is, so it may help. It's not a "hey, we demand you
keep it flying" sort of petition, it's more a "we'd support any
person or organisation that has a plan", or a "come on guys, look
how people love this machine" sort of thing.


Good for you, I'll sign it. OK, it may not get anywhere, but for Ghu's sake,
it's no effort to sign a petition; and at least it keeps the issue alive.
Not a dig at any one person, but I do get irritated when people simply
dismiss efforts in an Eyeore-ish manner.

Ali

It takes $$$$$$$ to keep airplanes flying not petitions.

"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
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Don't know if you know about this, but the petition to keep Concorde
flying is going to change. The emphasis is now going to be on keeping
one airworthy to be used at airshows, etc.

If you want to sign the petition (anyone that signed the old one will
automatically be carried over to the new one) it's linked from the
website below.

http://www.save-concorde.co.uk

Paul (not involved with it, I would just like to see one kept flying!)

It takes $$$$$$$ to keep airplanes flying not petitions.


....and complacency to keep one grounded.