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Nobody,
Come on. It was *reported* to be 4sm vis. In fact, the aircraft was airborne for 60 seconds. The reported ceiling was 500 overcast. The crash was heard, but not seen, from a hangar a qtr mile away. She took off into conditions that were entirely visibile to a casual observer. That the weather report says the conditions are 4 sm does not absolve the PIC from looking out the window. She did not maintain conservative safety margins; and her emergency IFR skills we inadequate. Please get this. It was not an 'act of God.' This was entirely preventable. Gene |
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![]() There is no way visibility goes from adequate VFR to low IMC in less than sixty seconds. I'm calling bull**** on this. "nobody" wrote in message ... Did you read the story? She did not take off in IMC, vis was 4sm at takeoff. |
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Colin,
I agree that the fighter pilot was probably unrecoverable. The tough part from my position is how to separate those from the recoverable ones *before* they make their airplane into an aluminium plate on the side of a rock. Since I have not yet figured out how to tell, I tend to give it my best to try to get to whatever common sense might still be operating while there still is time to try. A lot of that effor is wasted. In the interest of effort that probably will not be wasted (you seem to be listening) , I want to point out that the idea that there was 'something psychologically busted in her brain' misses the most important point. Most likely there was not; the fact is, we all are susceptible to the same kind of error. That's the point; that she *wasn't* different from the rest of us, that the only thing that separates us from 'them' is a will to choose--and it is a choice--not to succumb to the same temptations. There was nothing 'wrong' with her. She was just like us. We could do the same thing tomorrow, except that--if we choose--we can realize that and learn from her mistakes and decide to take actions to make sure that when we are being taken down that path by our emotions, that we then *choose* to do not what we want to do, nor what everyone else is doing, nor what will make us popular, but rather that which we know is better from a purely rational point of view. It sounds easy when we are not in the midst of it, and in fact it is not. Gene |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... In the interest of effort that probably will not be wasted (you seem to be listening) , I want to point out that the idea that there was 'something psychologically busted in her brain' misses the most important point. Most likely there was not; the fact is, we all are susceptible to the same kind of error. That's the point; that she *wasn't* different from the rest of us, that the only thing that separates us from 'them' is a will to choose--and it is a choice--not to succumb to the same temptations. Like I said, I understand VFR into IMC, and I can see it happening in the context of a rational thought process. This specific case I have a much harder time with. I'm just trying to reconstruct the thought process in my head that could lead someone to take off in these conditions. -cwk. |
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Hi, Gene,
My research has led me into the psychology of narcissism, and I believe that is a major factor in this seemingly mysterious penchant some pilots have to go ahead and launch when prudence would dictate another less risky course of action. Sam: These may be of interest to you; http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal66.html http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal70.html Take care. Sam |
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Sam,
I will look at those. Thank you. Gene |
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I wrote an article about this that was published in Plane and Pilot ,
called "The Wrong Stuff." It is available to view on my website at www.genehudson.com if you care to read more about this stuff. Couldn't find the article there. I found where it was listed with other articles, and many of those other articles are clickable links which take you into their content, but "The Wrong Stuff" is not clickable. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.825 / Virus Database: 563 - Release Date: 12/31/2004 |
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Geoffrey,
If you give me an email address I can send it to you, I still have the original draft on my computer. Gene |
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Gene, how about posting it here?
wrote: Geoffrey, If you give me an email address I can send it to you, I still have the original draft on my computer. |
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