10,500 feet is way the heck up there!

What's with the 3.1 megapixel/6 megapixel effective stuff?

What is it. 3.1 or 6?

mike regish

"Newps" wrote in message
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Just looked up the S5000, looks like you can get one for $329USD. Might
have to upgrade.

Trentus wrote:
"Michael 182" wrote in message
. net...

I know, I know - it's way OT, but I'm about to spend significant money
on

a

digital camera, and it seems like the people in here may know more than

any

advice I'm getting from friends. I posted over on alt.photography, but
it

is

a pretty quiet newsgroup.

So, here are some parameters:

$1,000, including enough memory to make the camera useful

10x or greater zoom for youth sports - soccer and basketball

ability to increase zoom for wildlife, nature photos - maybe attach to
my
Kowa TSN 822 scope

use for pictures in my 182

What else should I be asking? Is this enough info to make a decision? I
am
leaning toward the Fuji S-5000. Any opinions?


You'll love the S-5000
I just bought one recently.
Fantastic Camera for the money.
Mine - complete with extra memory card and camera case was - $1049
Australian
10x zoom is outstanding.
2 x digital makes it even more so.
Through the Lense.
Up to 6 megapixel because of the "Super CCD"
Extra lenses available for wide angle and greater telephoto is you use
the
supplied adaptor.
Takes standard AA batteries, so if you ever have flat batteries, more
can be
got from any local store, and rechargeable AA's are cheap.
Uses XD memory card, so the camera can store what it just took very
quickly,
and be ready for another shot quicker. XD is the quickest form of card.
Total flexibility from TOTAL MANUAL, to totally auto, and all between.
Quality of the shots is amazing, but ignore the camera when it says it
wants
the flash, most of the time it doesn't need it, the shots are great
without
it.

It's not pocket sized, but is small enough to carry around easily.

Trentus

After reading further I see the experts don't like the camera. I
already have an Olympus C700 with the 10x zoom at 2.1 mp. I want to
upgrade but it will be to at least the 4mp range. Also I did not look
far enough to see if it had a port to connect the camera to your TV. We
really like that feature when travelling.

mike regish wrote:
What's with the 3.1 megapixel/6 megapixel effective stuff?

What is it. 3.1 or 6?

mike regish

"Newps" wrote in message
news:XPAkb.595628$cF.260005@rwcrnsc53...

Just looked up the S5000, looks like you can get one for $329USD. Might
have to upgrade.

Trentus wrote:

"Michael 182" wrote in message
tt.net...


I know, I know - it's way OT, but I'm about to spend significant money

on

a


digital camera, and it seems like the people in here may know more than

any


advice I'm getting from friends. I posted over on alt.photography, but

it

is


a pretty quiet newsgroup.

So, here are some parameters:

$1,000, including enough memory to make the camera useful

10x or greater zoom for youth sports - soccer and basketball

ability to increase zoom for wildlife, nature photos - maybe attach to

my

Kowa TSN 822 scope

use for pictures in my 182

What else should I be asking? Is this enough info to make a decision? I

am

leaning toward the Fuji S-5000. Any opinions?


You'll love the S-5000
I just bought one recently.
Fantastic Camera for the money.
Mine - complete with extra memory card and camera case was - $1049
Australian
10x zoom is outstanding.
2 x digital makes it even more so.
Through the Lense.
Up to 6 megapixel because of the "Super CCD"
Extra lenses available for wide angle and greater telephoto is you use

the

supplied adaptor.
Takes standard AA batteries, so if you ever have flat batteries, more

can be

got from any local store, and rechargeable AA's are cheap.
Uses XD memory card, so the camera can store what it just took very

quickly,

and be ready for another shot quicker. XD is the quickest form of card.
Total flexibility from TOTAL MANUAL, to totally auto, and all between.
Quality of the shots is amazing, but ignore the camera when it says it

wants

the flash, most of the time it doesn't need it, the shots are great

without

it.

It's not pocket sized, but is small enough to carry around easily.

Trentus

"mike regish" writes:

What's with the 3.1 megapixel/6 megapixel effective stuff?

What is it. 3.1 or 6?

It's 3.1.

This is something Fuji keeps screwing up on, and it annoys the heck
outa me.

Here follows more photo-neepery than most people probably care
about....

The Fuji "super-CCD" is a good design. It uses octagonal cells (yes,
8-sided, not 6-sided, and not 4-sided), and they're arranged in more
of a diamond grid (definitely not in a simple rectangular array).
This lets more of each cell be the actual light-sensitive part, which
increases sensitivity and lowers noise. Practical trials of Fuji
cameras show definite improvements in noise levels and a small
increase in resolution compared to a normal, rectangular, array of the
same number of pixels (see reports at http://dpreview.com, a very
good site for digital camera info). The reports on the Fuji S2 Pro
are the ones I'm most familiar with, since that's the camera I was
studying (and decided in the end to buy).

Now, to get an actual rectangular array of pixels out of this, some
processing is needed. The way Fuji does it involves resampling the
funny array up to a rectangular grid of twice as many pixels.

Then some marketing dweeb decided to try to market those cameras as
actually having that many pixels. This, of course, caused lots of
people to go off like rockets!

On my Fuji S2, except when I need raw mode, the most useful mode is to
have it store a 3kx2k (i.e. 6MP) jpeg. So the data path is from 6
million sensors (each reading only *one* of red, green, and blue --
standard Bayer pattern sensor) to 12 million RGB pixels down to 6
million RGB pixels, and then jpeg compression. Luckily the S2 has
enough processing power to handle it (it shoots very slightly *faster*
than the Nikon D100, the closest model for comparison).
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