JFK

in article , Robert Perkins at
wrote on 11/16/03 7:31 PM:



Hearing "Ich bin ein Schweizer" or anything like that is akin to
hearing a non English speaker say "I go today to get milk at store."
The English speaker would use gerunds.


But you'd still know what that non-English speaker was talking about,
wouldn't you? That's why all these posts arguing about whether or not
Kennedy really said "jelly donut" are so silly. Everybody KNEW what he
meant.

"Michael 182" writes:

What does infidelity have to do with his legacy?

Not much of a legacy. He was only in office 3 years so didn't have
much time...Cuba was a disaster every way, after the nuke showdown
Cuba didn't have any missles BUT they had a promise of no invasion by
us. A win for the Soviets though I guess they didn't see it that way.

JFK simply didn't get much done. But he was studly and that's what
counts in the world.

"Bob Fry" wrote:
JFK simply didn't get much done. But he was studly and that's what
counts in the world.

Exactly.

Presidents are elected on TV appeal, and JFK was prettier than Nixon. He
was a dangerous playboy with a penchant for international mischief, but
he had sex appeal that America couldn't resist - still can't. Reagan
was the quintessential TV president, revered now because he had the luck
to be sitting in the big chair when Soviet communism finally rotted to
pieces, even though his presidency was marked by colossal deficits, the
S&L debacle and sleazy dealings with scum in Iran and Central America.
But boy, he sure could say "God bless America" on TV like no one else!
We loved it!

Clinton and Bush? Same thing: they won because they were cuter on the
tube than their opponents.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:
....
Presidents are elected on TV appeal, and JFK was prettier than Nixon. He
was a dangerous playboy with a penchant for international mischief, but
he had sex appeal that America couldn't resist - still can't. Reagan
was the quintessential TV president, revered now because he had the luck
to be sitting in the big chair when Soviet communism finally rotted to
pieces, even though his presidency was marked by colossal deficits, the
S&L debacle and sleazy dealings with scum in Iran and Central America.
But boy, he sure could say "God bless America" on TV like no one else!
We loved it!

Clinton and Bush? Same thing: they won because they were cuter on the
tube than their opponents.

Absolutely!

"Icebound" wrote in message
. rogers.com...
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| Clinton and Bush? Same thing: they won because they were cuter on the
| tube than their opponents.
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| Absolutely!
|

Man, if that's what it takes, I couldn't be elected dogcatcher.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:01:42 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:

Presidents are elected on TV appeal, and JFK was prettier than Nixon. He
was a dangerous playboy with a penchant for international mischief, but
he had sex appeal that America couldn't resist - still can't.

Shocking as it might be too all the Boomers out there, *this* gen-Xer
would really like it, now that the geopolitical situation is very
different, if people would leave JFK to the history books and, y'know,
move on.

He was just zis guy, you know?

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card

Bob Fry wrote:

JFK simply didn't get much done. But he was studly and that's what
counts in the world.

He was instrumental in preventing World War III. He started the
Vietnam War. He started the space program. If this doesn't count as
"getting much done", then I don't know what does.

Jim Rosinski
N3825Q

("jim rosinski" wrote)
He was instrumental in preventing World War III.

Yup.

He started the Vietnam War.


Truman did, when he supported France's pre-war colonial claims. This after
the Vietnamese army, almost single-handedly, held back, and eventually
defeated, the invading Japanese.

One of Vietnam's first (post war) requests to the US was for copies of the
Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Ho Chi
Minh was pro-America in 1945. We turned him away when he came to us. That
was the *start* of the Vietnam War.


He started the space program.


He energized the space program...
He set a national goal for the space program...
He pushed for new funds for the space program ...
He reinvigorated the space program with imagination ...

Space program was already in place. Moon program gets Kennedy's stamp.

http://www.cs.umb.edu/jfklibrary/j052561.htm#sound

--
Montblack

in article , Montblack at
wrote on 11/15/03 9:44 PM:

("jim rosinski" wrote)

He started the space program.


He energized the space program...
He set a national goal for the space program...
He pushed for new funds for the space program ...
He reinvigorated the space program with imagination ...

Space program was already in place. Moon program gets Kennedy's stamp.

http://www.cs.umb.edu/jfklibrary/j052561.htm#sound

I think it gets LBJ's stamp. It was no coincidence that flight operations
were located in Texas. He also helped keep the Apollo program alive after
the fire, when a whole lot of influential people wanted it scrapped.

"Montblack" wrote:


[JFK] started the Vietnam War.

Truman did, when he supported France's pre-war colonial claims. This after
the Vietnamese army, almost single-handedly, held back, and eventually
defeated, the invading Japanese.

One of Vietnam's first (post war) requests to the US was for copies of the
Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Ho Chi
Minh was pro-America in 1945. We turned him away when he came to us. That
was the *start* of the Vietnam War.

Thanks for the informative historical perspective! But to me
"starting a war" requires sending troops, which I believe began on
JFK's watch.

He started the space program.

He energized the space program...
He set a national goal for the space program...
He pushed for new funds for the space program ...
He reinvigorated the space program with imagination ...

Space program was already in place. Moon program gets Kennedy's stamp.

Good points.

Jim Rosinski
N3825Q