Big Kahunas

Jay, for the love of honesty, use some reasonable rules. If GW is the only
Republican that has announced and is running, use his numbers as one side.

If there are elebenty-bazzilion Democrats running, add them all TOGETHER and
compare them.

You are far too honest and educated a man to post what you posted.

Jim



"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not only
-would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.
-
-This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Jay, for the love of honesty, use some reasonable rules. If GW is the
only
Republican that has announced and is running, use his numbers as one side.

If there are elebenty-bazzilion Democrats running, add them all TOGETHER
and
compare them.

You are far too honest and educated a man to post what you posted.

Say what? You think the poll was so flawed as to measure each Democrat's
potential as a candidate as if he was a percentage of the whole Democratic
ticket?

I would hope that the NPR poll would be smart enough to ask something like
"IF Senator Kerry (who was in Iowa City today, BTW. His pilots -- but not
him -- stayed with us!) were the Democratic candidate in the Presidential
Election tomorrow, for whom would you vote -- Bush or Kerry?"

I would expect nothing less from NPR.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.

mike regish

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UIPyb.386940$Fm2.398013@attbi_s04...
I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll
trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term,
he
would not have made the trip.

Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not only
would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.

This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article 0bUyb.276099$9E1.1453263@attbi_s52, "mike regish"
writes:


His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.


Wishful thinking on your part. Third year of first term poll numbers are always
low for the President. They were for Clinton as well, in fact, they were much
worse for him than Bush's are now.

Right now, people are mentally comparing Bush to some ideal "West Wing" sort of
Presidency in their minds. When he is compared to a real Democrat Dwarf next
year, that will not be the case.

Failing some catastrophe in the economy, get used to GWB till 2008, then Rice
for the next 8.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

Mike

Polls were over 60 in this monings paper. Doesn't sound like a loser
to me..

Big John


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 04:04:12 GMT, "mike regish"
wrote:

His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.

mike regish

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UIPyb.386940$Fm2.398013@attbi_s04...
I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term,
he would not have made the trip.


Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not only
would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.

This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UIPyb.386940$Fm2.398013@attbi_s04...
I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll
trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term,
he
would not have made the trip.

Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not only
would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.

This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.
The polls right now are about where Reagan was in 1984 when he cleaned
Mondale's clock and Mondale only carried DC and his home state of Minnesota
(which he only took by about 5000 votes....about .02% margin.

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:4GNyb.275746$ao4.947242@attbi_s51...
| Put pretty concisely and accurately, if you ask me.
|
| But then, you didn't, did you.
|
| I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll
| trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term, he
| would not have made the trip.
|
| mike regish

So far, the only arguments that I have heard against us going into Iraq was
fears that we would not behave like Americans: establishing democracy and
the rule of law, rebuilding the infrastructure, eliminating a threat to the
very foundations of civilization, and giving freedom to Iraqis. No, all the
arguments against us being there are based on fears that we will behave like
Europeans -- the Crusades, colonialism, mass exploitation, looting of the
subject country, and enslaving the population.

It appears, despite assertions to the contrary, that we are remaining more
true to our American ideals there rather than giving in to European cultural
excesses.

You are without a doubt the most contemptuous, hateful and outright arrogant
person I've yet run into, and there are some doozies in the pro-bush tribe.
Get off your high horse and get in touch with reality at some point in your
miserable life.

I don't plonk anybody, but that may just change. I'm sure that will break
your heart.

I'll bet you make a lot of money.

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:4GNyb.275746$ao4.947242@attbi_s51...
| Put pretty concisely and accurately, if you ask me.
|
| But then, you didn't, did you.
|
| I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll
| trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term,
he
| would not have made the trip.
|
| mike regish

So far, the only arguments that I have heard against us going into Iraq
was
fears that we would not behave like Americans: establishing democracy and
the rule of law, rebuilding the infrastructure, eliminating a threat to
the
very foundations of civilization, and giving freedom to Iraqis. No, all
the
arguments against us being there are based on fears that we will behave
like
Europeans -- the Crusades, colonialism, mass exploitation, looting of the
subject country, and enslaving the population.

It appears, despite assertions to the contrary, that we are remaining more
true to our American ideals there rather than giving in to European
cultural
excesses.

("Mike Regish" wrote)
some odd anti-Mormie stuff snipped

I'll bet you make a lot of money.

I was with you up until ...right about here. g

--
Montblack
http://lumma.de/mt/archives/bart.gif

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:nq8Ab.311733$ao4.1062502@attbi_s51...
| You are without a doubt the most contemptuous, hateful and outright
arrogant
| person I've yet run into, and there are some doozies in the pro-bush
tribe.
| Get off your high horse and get in touch with reality at some point in
your
| miserable life.
|

I am not sure what you are saying -- honestly. Are you contending that we
are looting Iraq, raping the women, and bringing our soldiers home loaded
with Iraqi TVs (as Iraq did to Kuwait)? If not, what do you think we are
doing there?

You have not been following this news group for very long if you think I am
an enthusiastic supporter of Bush. However, when he is right he deserves
credit for it.

Now, I will tell you what I think is contemptuous, hateful, and outright
arrogant: the anti-Bush clowns who can't stand the thought that the man
could possibly do anything right. They are absolutely foaming at the mouth
over it. They are furious that we have not begun looting Iraqi oil fields.
They are absolutely incensed that our soldiers are doing everything possible
to not appear to be an occupying force -- even endangering their own lives
to do it. The anti-Bush crowd is livid that not only are we not looting the
country, but we have no intention of allowing France, Germany, or Russia to
loot the country, either. And the thing that gets them the most -- Bush
appears to actually be sincere about his reasons for invading Iraq and he
appears determined to make good on his promises there.

Now, I think it is extremely hateful, contemptuous, and arrogant to wish
that our own soldiers who are faithfully serving our country will meet
disaster just to serve the anti-Bush crowd's political agenda and give Bush
a black eye.

| I don't plonk anybody, but that may just change. I'm sure that will break
| your heart.

If the truth hurts, you should probably plonk me. In any event, I have the
same opinion of you that you have of me. In fact, my opinion of you is even
lower. However, I will not plonk you. I don't feel it necessary to only read
posts from people who agree with me. However, I understand your need to
avoid opinions dissenting from your own point of view, so don't be ashamed
if you have such a weak character.

|
| I'll bet you make a lot of money.
|

How much money I make is none of your business. However, I am retired and
devote my time to flight instructing, so I arguably make no money at all.
:-)