Got burned - Don't go to Lansing Jet Center.

"Brooks Hagenow" wrote in message
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By the way, I did ask how much it was going to cost. They told me $12.50
a
gallon. My stupidity was thinking that it would take 5 to 10 gallons
max.
Even then $12.50 for a 50% mix of glycol and water is pretty damn steep (I
thought so anyway).

So they used 37 gallons? How many gallons does it normally take to de-ice
Cessna sized aircraft? I just checked the local airports pricing and it
is
$50 +tax to "defrost" the plane in a heated hanger and/or $20 a gallon for
type I aircraft deice.

But wow, if it really took 37 gallons you would have been charged $740 at
my
local airport.

With 37 gallons they could have deiced Minnesota.

Brooks Hagenow wrote:
By the way, I did ask how much it was going to cost. They told me $12.50 a

gallon. My stupidity was thinking that it would take 5 to 10 gallons max.
Even then $12.50 for a 50% mix of glycol and water is pretty damn steep (I
thought so anyway).

So they used 37 gallons? How many gallons does it normally take to de-ice
Cessna sized aircraft? I just checked the local airports pricing and it is
$50 +tax to "defrost" the plane in a heated hanger and/or $20 a gallon for
type I aircraft deice.

But wow, if it really took 37 gallons you would have been charged $740 at my
local airport.


I gererally use about 2 gallons when I do it with a bug sprayer. I have
seen small aircraft deiced with large equipment (Fire Hose). I dont
doubt 37 gallons could be used becasue it comes out so fast it just
doenot have time to work. Such equipment is really too bigg for a small
aircraft.

John Roncallo

A bucket truck with a firehose is exactly what they used. I should have
taken a picture because it really was a funny sight. JK

John Roncallo wrote:

Brooks Hagenow wrote:

By the way, I did ask how much it was going to cost. They told me
$12.50 a


gallon. My stupidity was thinking that it would take 5 to 10
gallons max.
Even then $12.50 for a 50% mix of glycol and water is pretty damn
steep (I
thought so anyway).

So they used 37 gallons? How many gallons does it normally take to
de-ice
Cessna sized aircraft? I just checked the local airports pricing and
it is
$50 +tax to "defrost" the plane in a heated hanger and/or $20 a
gallon for
type I aircraft deice.

But wow, if it really took 37 gallons you would have been charged
$740 at my
local airport.


I gererally use about 2 gallons when I do it with a bug sprayer. I
have seen small aircraft deiced with large equipment (Fire Hose). I
dont doubt 37 gallons could be used becasue it comes out so fast it
just doenot have time to work. Such equipment is really too bigg for a
small aircraft.

John Roncallo

In article , Paul Tomblin wrote:

It's pretty god damned stupid to ask for a service without asking how much
it costs, and then complain when it costs more than you expected.

Yeah. Why, if you drank a cup of coffee and then they told you it was
$49.50, you'd be a fool to complain about it.

Do you own the place? Geeze.

Mike Beede

"Mike Beede" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Tomblin
wrote:

It's pretty god damned stupid to ask for a service without asking how
much
it costs, and then complain when it costs more than you expected.

Yeah. Why, if you drank a cup of coffee and then they told you it was
$49.50, you'd be a fool to complain about it.

And don't ask for their chocolate cookie recipe.

"Tom S." wrote in message
...
Yeah. Why, if you drank a cup of coffee and then they told you it was
$49.50, you'd be a fool to complain about it.

And don't ask for their chocolate cookie recipe.


The recipe is available at
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/se...e_recipe.jhtml
(UL/hoax from http://makeshorter.com/?72Q42u62L)

"Greg Burkhart" wrote in message
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"Tom S." wrote in message
...
Yeah. Why, if you drank a cup of coffee and then they told you it was
$49.50, you'd be a fool to complain about it.

And don't ask for their chocolate cookie recipe.


The recipe is available at
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/se...e_recipe.jhtml
(UL/hoax from http://makeshorter.com/?72Q42u62L)


:~) (I was wondering if someone would pick that up)

The weather on Friday made it impossible to return because of icing
issues. No problem better safe than sorry right... Saturday dawned
much better. Got to the airport to find the plane with a coating of ice
that needed to be removed. My FBO at home takes care of this for free. I
wasn't expecting it to be free but when they finished the job and
presented me with a $462.50 bill I about lost it (**** my pants). Hell
the plane rental for the 3 days wasn't even that much. I paid the bill
and vowed to not go there again.

Jon, what in the world were you renting -- a Gulfstream?

If this charge was for a Spam Can, you NEED to write a letter to the owner
of this facility, and demand a refund. There is no way in the world
de-icing a Cessna/Piper/Beech should cost even 10% of what you were charged.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I agree with Jay. Write or call the owner of the FBO and talk it out with
them. You don't have to be nasty - just see how far you can get. Even if
they are jerks and don't refund some of your money, maybe they will instruct
their line guys for future small plane owners. Maybe the FBO is focused on
the big-plane big-bucks guys, but they should be sensitive to the low end as
well. At least warn you that they are not set up to deice small planes.

Maybe your complaint will put a garden sprayer on their planning for next
year!

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The weather on Friday made it impossible to return because of icing
issues. No problem better safe than sorry right... Saturday dawned
much better. Got to the airport to find the plane with a coating of ice
that needed to be removed. My FBO at home takes care of this for free. I
wasn't expecting it to be free but when they finished the job and
presented me with a $462.50 bill I about lost it (**** my pants). Hell
the plane rental for the 3 days wasn't even that much. I paid the bill
and vowed to not go there again.

Jon, what in the world were you renting -- a Gulfstream?

If this charge was for a Spam Can, you NEED to write a letter to the owner
of this facility, and demand a refund. There is no way in the world
de-icing a Cessna/Piper/Beech should cost even 10% of what you were
charged.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I spoke with Joe the general manager of the Lansing Jet Center today and
he agreed to refund me $275.00. That means it still cost me $187.50 for
the deicing but who's complaining. :-)

Thanks for all the input.

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL
Student-IA
Student- at flying into other airports

Jay Honeck wrote:

The weather on Friday made it impossible to return because of icing
issues. No problem better safe than sorry right... Saturday dawned
much better. Got to the airport to find the plane with a coating of ice
that needed to be removed. My FBO at home takes care of this for free. I
wasn't expecting it to be free but when they finished the job and
presented me with a $462.50 bill I about lost it (**** my pants). Hell
the plane rental for the 3 days wasn't even that much. I paid the bill
and vowed to not go there again.



Jon, what in the world were you renting -- a Gulfstream?

If this charge was for a Spam Can, you NEED to write a letter to the owner
of this facility, and demand a refund. There is no way in the world
de-icing a Cessna/Piper/Beech should cost even 10% of what you were charged.