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Old December 3rd 03, 10:35 PM
R. Hubbell
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:04:13 GMT "mike regish" wrote:

If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to Canada.



Let me know what you find. B.C. is actually nice, there's a fair bit of
rain. But rain vs. crazy republicans with Machiavellian methods seems like
a simple call.

R. Hubbell


mike regish

"Wdtabor" wrote in message
...
In article 0bUyb.276099$9E1.1453263@attbi_s52, "mike regish"
writes:


His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each

day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.


Wishful thinking on your part. Third year of first term poll numbers are

always
low for the President. They were for Clinton as well, in fact, they were

much
worse for him than Bush's are now.

Right now, people are mentally comparing Bush to some ideal "West Wing"

sort of
Presidency in their minds. When he is compared to a real Democrat Dwarf

next
year, that will not be the case.

Failing some catastrophe in the economy, get used to GWB till 2008, then

Rice
for the next 8.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG



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Old December 3rd 03, 10:36 PM
C J Campbell
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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| If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to
Canada.
|

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


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Old December 3rd 03, 11:05 PM
mike regish
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I was waiting for that.

What? No reference to traitor?

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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| If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to
Canada.
|

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.




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Old December 4th 03, 08:18 AM
Earl Grieda
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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| If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to
Canada.
|

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and the
brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined together
and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
society.

Our current President Doofus, and his supporters, are helping make this
fictional story more plausible every day.

Earl G.


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Old December 4th 03, 04:31 PM
C J Campbell
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"Earl Grieda" wrote in message
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| There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
| that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
| conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and
the
| brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined
together
| and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
| society.
|
| Our current President Doofus, and his supporters, are helping make this
| fictional story more plausible every day.

Let me know when the Europeans become paragons of tolerance.


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Old December 4th 03, 05:40 PM
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In article k.net, "Earl
Grieda" writes:

There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and the
brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined together
and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
society.


Why would the best and brightest leave a conservative, capitalist society where
their talents and efforts would bring them success to have the fruits of their
labors plundered by a socialist regime?

Those who would leave would be the failures who THINK they are the best and
brightest, taking their degrees in Fench literature and art history with them.

Oh dear, how will we get along without them?

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG
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Old December 5th 03, 04:20 AM
C J Campbell
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
...
| In article k.net, "Earl
| Grieda" writes:
|
| There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
| that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
| conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and
the
| brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined
together
| and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
| society.
|
| Why would the best and brightest leave a conservative, capitalist society
where
| their talents and efforts would bring them success to have the fruits of
their
| labors plundered by a socialist regime?
|
| Those who would leave would be the failures who THINK they are the best
and
| brightest, taking their degrees in Fench literature and art history with
them.
|
| Oh dear, how will we get along without them?
|

The Europeans have not changed their tune since the sixteenth century. They
have always regarded Americans as rustics and buffoons and themselves as the
epitome of tolerance and culture. This, from a continent that is barely able
to feed itself, is unwilling or unable to defend itself, and where the
height of fashion is American western wear and where American music reigns
supreme.

Europeans have given rise to a rapid succession of tyrants that culminated
in the 20th century with nearly the complete annihilation of the human race.
Beginning with the Napoleonic wars, America has had to intervene repeatedly
to save Europe from the megalomaniac madmen the cretins continually select
as their rulers. They are classist beyond belief, celebrating ugly little
traditions like Boxing Day, where the lower classes are given gifts by their
social superiors. European philosophy is equally ugly, socialist,
relativistic, and even nihilist in its point of view.

The few Americans who buy into the European view have always tried to
portray themselves as cultural elites. In fact, the movie stars and effete
snobs who think Europe is so great are usually either uneducated high school
dropouts or products of insular liberal arts programs delivered in ivory
towers.

Oh, yeah -- there is nothing so intolerant as the promoters of 'tolerance.'
Frankly, if it was not likely to end in a world-wide conflagration, it would
be better to just pull our military peacekeepers out of Europe and let the
continent implode in its own pride and hubris. Unfortunately, the Europeans
cannot be entrusted to not hurl nuclear weapons at each other, so the
presence of our troops will be necessary for a long time to come.


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Old December 9th 03, 04:11 PM
Frank
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C J Campbell wrote:

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The Europeans have not changed their tune since the sixteenth century.
They have always regarded Americans as rustics and buffoons and themselves
as the epitome of tolerance and culture. This, from a continent that is
barely able to feed itself, is unwilling or unable to defend itself, and
where the height of fashion is American western wear and where American
music reigns supreme.


I wonder for how much longer this will be true. During the month I was in
Germany and France this year I saw signs of a growing movement to boycott
American goods.

And to bring this actually on topic....The big news on the Monday after the
Paris Air Show was that an order for (approx) 30 airliners had gone to Air
Bus because of the lack of American presence. A week later a German airline
decided to go with Dornier instead of Boeing also. So in two weeks we lost
close to 40 aircraft sales. How much was due to anti-American sentiment is
perhaps debatable, but it was a huge blow to our economy and it's a trend
that must not be ignored.


Europeans have given rise to a rapid succession of tyrants that culminated
in the 20th century with nearly the complete annihilation of the human
race.


If it's one thing history shows us it's that there is always a ready supply
of tyrants waiting for an opportunity. We as Americans tend to think of
ourselves as being exempt from that because our system is geared to keep it
out, but our history is not exacly un-blemished.

snip

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Frank....H
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Old December 4th 03, 08:55 PM
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("Earl Grieda" wrote)
There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman

Sprinrad,that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has
become a conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best
and the brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined
together and are creating an energetic space program along with an open,
tolerant society.


Haven't read that book. I'm still plowing my way through John Adams, and now
The Da Vinci Code has been dropped in my lap.

I used to really like *thin* comic books....

It's *all* fiction - unless it's about the Chinese being the dominant world
power - for the next 100 years.

It's all about China folks. If you don't think so, just wait a few more
years...you'll see.

--
Montblack
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Old December 5th 03, 02:04 AM
Brian Burger
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, mike regish wrote:

If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to Canada.


Canada has a great tradition as a refuge for the more sensible sort of
American!

Not just Vietnam, either. Consider the Yanks who *did* want to fight while
the US was waffling around with neutrality in the two World Wars!



Brian.


mike regish

"Wdtabor" wrote in message
...
In article 0bUyb.276099$9E1.1453263@attbi_s52, "mike regish"
writes:


His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each

day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.


Wishful thinking on your part. Third year of first term poll numbers are

always
low for the President. They were for Clinton as well, in fact, they were

much
worse for him than Bush's are now.

Right now, people are mentally comparing Bush to some ideal "West Wing"

sort of
Presidency in their minds. When he is compared to a real Democrat Dwarf

next
year, that will not be the case.

Failing some catastrophe in the economy, get used to GWB till 2008, then

Rice
for the next 8.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG




 




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