I removed myself from an airline flight - long

What do you think the crew thought of my behavior?
Would you ever consider doing something similar?
Would I? My actions still make sense to me as I
write them but I doubt that I would ever do such a thing again.

As airplanes go, I think pilots are pretty well-informed people. I've
flown a couple of times commercially since starting flight training
and it's just interesting to note how many similarities there are
between the little planes and the big ones. Right down to the whining
sound the intercoms make.

I think if I started to feel like a flight is unsafe, I'd have done
something similar. What was the airline's ticket policy? Did it cost
you more money to go on a later flight?

Rob

"Rob Perkins"
I think if I started to feel like a flight is unsafe, I'd have done
something similar. What was the airline's ticket policy? Did it cost
you more money to go on a later flight?

No it didn't. Everything was handled very nicely. Forgot the airline
though.

Ok, let me get this straight.... You are asking if you were smart by getting out of an airplane that:
a) had a cargo door that wouldn't latch... hmm wasn't that a bit of a problem with early 727s or was it DC9s?
b) had a cargo loading crew who's solution was "get a bigger hammer" and hit it alot harder... hey, it works with empty beer cans, this is just aluminium!
c) was being flown by pilots who placed all of their trust in the judgement of the "bigger hammer guys" after all, we sit way up here in front
d) was being flown by pilots who where of the opinion that "the bigger hammer guys" some how would guarantee the safety of the flight cause after all, they're staying on the ground

I think you were the ONLY smart one.
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DC-10. The relevant book is "The Rise and Fall of the DC-10."

Bob Gardner

"Jim" wrote in message ...
Ok, let me get this straight.... You are asking if you were smart by getting out of an airplane that:
a) had a cargo door that wouldn't latch... hmm wasn't that a bit of a problem with early 727s or was it DC9s?
b) had a cargo loading crew who's solution was "get a bigger hammer" and hit it alot harder... hey, it works with empty beer cans, this is just aluminium!
c) was being flown by pilots who placed all of their trust in the judgement of the "bigger hammer guys" after all, we sit way up here in front
d) was being flown by pilots who where of the opinion that "the bigger hammer guys" some how would guarantee the safety of the flight cause after all, they're staying on the ground

I think you were the ONLY smart one.
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"Jim" wrote in message ...
Ok, let me get this straight.... You are asking if you were smart by getting out of an airplane that:
a) had a cargo door that wouldn't latch... hmm wasn't that a bit of a problem with early 727s or was it DC9s?
b) had a cargo loading crew who's solution was "get a bigger hammer" and hit it alot harder... hey, it works with empty beer cans, this is just aluminium!
c) was being flown by pilots who placed all of their trust in the judgement of the "bigger hammer guys" after all, we sit way up here in front
d) was being flown by pilots who where of the opinion that "the bigger hammer guys" some how would guarantee the safety of the flight cause after all, they're staying on the ground

I think you were the ONLY smart one.

I would love to agree ... but if I only applied the same conservative, overly cautious thinking to all of my own flights. It's a lot easier to decline a flight as 1 passenger among 100 that to decline one with 100 passengers in the back... or sometimes even when it's just 1 sitting beside you.

"Maule Driver" writes:

This happened in Houston years ago - maybe 6 or 7. Curious about what any
airline people think of this.

[snip details]

Seems to me there were a series of DC-10 crashes in the early years
(of the DC-10, I mean) that turned out to relate to cargo doors not
being properly closed and fastened.
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On 12/16/03 1:34 PM, in article
, "Maule Driver"
wrote:

Well, they were as nice as could be about it and didn't even let a patronizing
smirk out but I was totally spooked and said that I was going to get off the
plane. I explained that it shouldn't be a problem since I only had a carry
on bag and well, I was just going to stay behind

I bet you couldn¹t do this in today¹s terrorist environment.

In article , Paul Rekieta
wrote:

On 12/16/03 1:34 PM, in article
, "Maule Driver"
wrote:

Well, they were as nice as could be about it and didn't even let a
patronizing
smirk out but I was totally spooked and said that I was going to get off the
plane. I explained that it shouldn't be a problem since I only had a carry
on bag and well, I was just going to stay behind

I bet you couldn¹t do this in today¹s terrorist environment.


Couldn't do what? Get off the airplane? That's preposterous, what are
you suggesting they would do? Not let you off? Handcuff you to your
seat?

Please.

"Tom Fleischman" wrote in message
news:171220030905080167%

I bet you couldn¹t do this in today¹s terrorist environment.


Couldn't do what? Get off the airplane? That's preposterous, what are
you suggesting they would do? Not let you off? Handcuff you to your
seat?

Please.

I believe the thought is that you might have left some device on the plane.
I would not be surprised if, while they let you off the plane, they also
make others get off and then inspect the cabin. Maybe with dogs. I know it
sounds outlandish, but I can easily imagine it happening.

-Trent
PP-ASEL

I believe the thought is that you might have left some device on the plane.
I would not be surprised if, while they let you off the plane, they also
make others get off and then inspect the cabin.


.... and maybe fix the cargo latch.

Jose

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