CBS "News" strikes AGAIN

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:26:47 -0800, David H wrote:

Here we go again....

Tonight the CBS Evening "News" [sic] ran a story about the apparently
drunk pilot idiot who busted Philadelphia's airspace, buzzed a variety
of things and apparently was able to land his Cherokee despite be
hammered.

The CBS twist on the story? "We told you about the dangers posed by so
called general aviation...now this..."
They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"

Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Hmmmm. OK, then why don't we just get the Army to shoot anyone
suspected of drunk driving?

Frigging morons.

David H
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I think our liberal media is chastising the government for not doing
anything so they can chastise them again if they do.
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"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:26:47 -0800, David H wrote:

Here we go again....

Tonight the CBS Evening "News" [sic] ran a story about the apparently
drunk pilot idiot who busted Philadelphia's airspace, buzzed a variety
of things and apparently was able to land his Cherokee despite be
hammered.

The CBS twist on the story? "We told you about the dangers posed by so
called general aviation...now this..."
They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"

Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Hmmmm. OK, then why don't we just get the Army to shoot anyone
suspected of drunk driving?

Frigging morons.

David H
Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA
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"Jim" wrote:
I think our liberal media is chastising the government for not
doing anything so they can chastise them again if they do.

It's got nothing to do with liberal or conservative: Fox was shrieking
as loud as the rest.
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote:
I think our liberal media is chastising the government for not
doing anything so they can chastise them again if they do.

It's got nothing to do with liberal or conservative: Fox was shrieking
as loud as the rest.

Dan, Your capacity for critical thinking and differentiation is
remarkable....when it suits your preconceived notions.

Howdy!

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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote:
I think our liberal media is chastising the government for not
doing anything so they can chastise them again if they do.

It's got nothing to do with liberal or conservative: Fox was shrieking
as loud as the rest.

Dan, Your capacity for critical thinking and differentiation is
remarkable....when it suits your preconceived notions.

Boy isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, Mr. Teachers-are-
worthless-pieces-of-****. I suppose your opinion here is one of an
expert in the field.

yours,
Michael


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More importantly, how much does it cost to fly a sortie of F-16s and
deliver a payload to destroy a Cherokee.

The rocket that they would shoot at it would cost about 10x what the
Cherokee does!

Roger Halstead wrote in
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:26:47 -0800, David H wrote:

Here we go again....

Tonight the CBS Evening "News" [sic] ran a story about the apparently
drunk pilot idiot who busted Philadelphia's airspace, buzzed a variety
of things and apparently was able to land his Cherokee despite be
hammered.

The CBS twist on the story? "We told you about the dangers posed by so
called general aviation...now this..."
They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"

Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Hmmmm. OK, then why don't we just get the Army to shoot anyone
suspected of drunk driving?

Frigging morons.

David H
Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA
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Visit the Pacific Northwest Flying forum:
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/pnwflying

Roger Halstead writes:
Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.

I tend to agree but what about the damage if the drunk pilot had spun out
of control and plowed into a building killing many yet the military did
nothing? Can go both ways.

"Royce Brown" wrote in message
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| Roger Halstead writes:
| Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
| shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
| That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
| outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.
|
| I tend to agree but what about the damage if the drunk pilot had spun out
| of control and plowed into a building killing many yet the military did
| nothing? Can go both ways.

Not really. Shooting down the pilot practically guarantees you will
everybody on board the airplane and possibly injure people and property on
the ground, not only with the destroyed aircraft, but also with all the
falling anti-aircraft munitions. Leaving the drunk alone, he might indeed
crash and hurt someone, but then again he probably will not. Shooting him
down merely turns a small chance of something bad happening into a high
probability.

You make several assumptions here that are probably incorrect.

First of all, it seems from recent history that piston-prop planes like
the one this guy was flying generally do not kill all that many. In most
cases, the only fatalities are the people in the plane, and sometimes
even the people in the plane survive.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/bre...p-125879c.html
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/02/Ta...ane_cras.shtml
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/monte...ws/7492384.htm

Second of all, your use of the term "spun out of control" is an
automobile term. When a plane gets into a spin, there are specific
techniques that can be used to regain control.

Third of all, hindsight is 20/20. The plain reality is that it is foolish
to believe that the military would shoot down a single engine plane just
because the plane went into Class B (not even restricted, just requires
clearance) airspace without a clearance. It would be like firing Mortars
at a drunk driver who accidentally went up a one-way street the wrong
way. And I have even done that when I wasn't drunk!

The only thing to fear is fear itself.

"Royce Brown" wrote in
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Roger Halstead writes:
Can you imagine the damage on the ground caused by an F-16 or 15
shooting down a low flying small plane over a populated area?
That would be a disaster no amount of spin could change. The public
outcry could easily cripple valid air patrols.

I tend to agree but what about the damage if the drunk pilot had spun
out of control and plowed into a building killing many yet the military
did nothing? Can go both ways.

"David H" wrote in message
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They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"


These people are nuts. There is a reason why we try to keep the armed
forces from police duties in this country. Just what kind of government is
CBS trying to push? What is their real agenda?