Offering the Middle-digit Salute in Response to Brazil

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:30:57 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The article contained this bit of information:

"Brazil's new requirement that American visitors submit to
photographs and fingerprinting ... which is how Brazilians are
welcomed to the U.S. under new security rules."

I would say that the U.S. instituted practice of fingerprinting and
photographing airline passengers entering our country may spark
similar indignities for U.S. passengers entering foreign countries.


But why just for US passengers? The US didn't single out Brazil or any
other individual country, the requirement applies to all passengers not
otherwise documented.

What does your phrase "not otherwise documented" mean? Other than
what? Aren't all international travelers required to possess a
Passport?

Are you saying that ALL airline passengers entering the US are
currently being fingerprinted and photographed? If so, this is the
first I've heard of that practice being instituted.

Your reply implies that you believe that Brazil has "singled out" US
passengers for fingerprinting and photographing. Are you able to
provide a credible citation substantiating that contention? The
quoted article's lack of explicitly stating that Brazil is requiring
fingerprinting and photographing _solely_ of US passengers is
ambiguous IMO.




First, the US is photographing and fingerprinting all foreign nationals that
are required to have a Visa to enter the USA. Brazil is included in that
group. Brazil is ONLY photographing & fingerprinting US citizens.

Is this fair? Sure it is. Brazil is a sovereign nation and can control their
borders any way they choose. Is it being done because we are doing it to
them and not for security reasons? Sure it is, but again it is their country
and they can do what they want to do at its' borders.

If anyone as an American citizen doesn't like it don't go to Brazil.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

Yo Gig...
On keeping my american dollars at home, you got it!

Lessee, the American Virgin Islands ought to be nice and warm right now...
denny

"Gig Giacona" If anyone as an American citizen
doesn't like it don't go to Brazil.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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| First, the US is photographing and fingerprinting all foreign nationals
that
| are required to have a Visa to enter the USA. Brazil is included in that
| group. Brazil is ONLY photographing & fingerprinting US citizens.
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| Is this fair? Sure it is. Brazil is a sovereign nation and can control
their
| borders any way they choose. Is it being done because we are doing it to
| them and not for security reasons? Sure it is, but again it is their
country
| and they can do what they want to do at its' borders.
|
| If anyone as an American citizen doesn't like it don't go to Brazil.

I am reminded of a policy some states used to have that charged Californians
more to use their state parks. Of course, the policy was entirely in
retaliation for California charging out of state visitors more. I would not
let Brazil's policy keep me from visiting that country. Come to think of it,
I kind of like their feisty attitude.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

The article contained this bit of information:

"Brazil's new requirement that American visitors submit to
photographs and fingerprinting ... which is how Brazilians are
welcomed to the U.S. under new security rules."

I would say that the U.S. instituted practice of fingerprinting and
photographing airline passengers entering our country may spark
similar indignities for U.S. passengers entering foreign countries.


But why just for US passengers? The US didn't single out Brazil or
any other individual country, the requirement applies to all
passengers not otherwise documented.

Simple: it is called reciprocal.
If you let my citizen into your country without a visa, then I will let your
citizen into my country without a visa.
If you are charging my citizien 200$ processing fee, them I will charge your
citizen 200$ processing fee.
If you don't require my citizen to present a passport (just an ID is good
enough), then I don't require your citizen do present a passport.
If you are fingerprinting my citizen, then I will fingerprint your citizen.

I am glad that Brazil had the guts to stand up against arrogance.

jue