A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Piloting
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

We Are All Spaniards



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 15th 04, 01:44 PM
Jay Honeck
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

The way to defeat terrorism is to have it not work any more. This means
accepting the death and destruction without changing our policy.


Agree 100%. We must stay the course, fight the good fight, and not flinch.

Unfortunately, the Spanish just showed that terror will influence elections,
policies, treaties, and troop deployments.

A very, very bad precedent. I fear the world will pay a terrible price for
Spain's actions.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #2  
Old March 15th 04, 11:49 PM
S Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:5ri5c.16535$_w.340261@attbi_s53...
The way to defeat terrorism is to have it not work any more. This means
accepting the death and destruction without changing our policy.


Agree 100%. We must stay the course, fight the good fight, and not

flinch.

Unfortunately, the Spanish just showed that terror will influence

elections,
policies, treaties, and troop deployments.

A very, very bad precedent. I fear the world will pay a terrible price

for
Spain's actions.


Alternatively the world will pay a terrible price for the US's actions.


  #3  
Old March 16th 04, 06:51 PM
Alex
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:5ri5c.16535$_w.340261@attbi_s53...
Unfortunately, the Spanish just showed that terror will influence elections,
policies, treaties, and troop deployments.


I have read this thread with both respect for the (mostly) flame-free
discusion and in awe for the lack of information. You should read more
non-US media...

1. Spaniards changed their vote not because of terror, but because the
government manipulated the information regarding the terror attacks
and tried to mislead the people for their own advantage (ring a
bell?).

2. Terrorists are not fighting a religious war. They are fighting the
US and its allies, not Christianity.
  #4  
Old March 15th 04, 11:46 PM
S Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GT75c.14199$po.186891@attbi_s52...
The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).


Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.


The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers. But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate, fighting
for their native soil.


  #5  
Old March 16th 04, 06:53 AM
Tom Sixkiller
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"S Green" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GT75c.14199$po.186891@attbi_s52...
The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).


Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.


The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers.


That's a BS myth -- they were most definitely NOT indiscriminante.

But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate,

fighting
for their native soil.


Nice (but damn lame) attempt at word games.


  #6  
Old March 16th 04, 03:09 PM
S Green
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"S Green" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GT75c.14199$po.186891@attbi_s52...
The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish

terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.


The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers.


That's a BS myth -- they were most definitely NOT indiscriminante.

But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate,

fighting
for their native soil.


Nice (but damn lame) attempt at word games.


But then this whole thread is word games.


  #7  
Old March 16th 04, 10:39 PM
John Galban
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...
"S Green" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:GT75c.14199$po.186891@attbi_s52...
The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

Again, you're confusing terrorists with rebels.

Rebels fight for territory. Terrorists kill indiscriminately.


The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers.


That's a BS myth -- they were most definitely NOT indiscriminante.

Boy, I really hate to step into this thread, but there were
incidents of what would be called "terrorism" today by the jewish
factions in pre-Israeli palestine. The bombing of the King David
Hotel in 1946 comes to mind.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
  #8  
Old March 18th 04, 01:05 AM
Jay Honeck
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers. But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate,

fighting
for their native soil.


I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.

However, they have lost the moral high ground with their moronic, murderous,
suicidal tactics. Where once we saw rebels, all we see now are terrorists.

Damn shame, too. They very nearly had world opinion on their side.

(Same thing happened to the IRA, by the way. Had they held strictly to
fighting the British, they might have pulled it off. Instead, they started
blowing up innocent civilians, and lost public opinion worldwide.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #9  
Old March 18th 04, 01:10 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:HB66c.32444$Cb.525898@attbi_s51...

I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.


They abandoned their land.


  #10  
Old March 18th 04, 01:24 AM
Newps
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default



Jay Honeck wrote:



I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.


Unfortunately the Palestinians don't have any land. Never did. Israel
did not kick the Palestinians out of present day Israel.


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.