We Are All Spaniards

This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points
to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in
Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and
perhaps more susceptible to blackmail).

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:44:17 GMT, "Tony Cox" wrote:

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.


I disagree. Britain has always been a target. An attack would not
change government policy (even if Labour were kicked out, the
Conservatives are even more bullish). And the UK have a clearer
sense of their global responsibilities than Spain. Of course, this
doesn't preclude an attack out of spite, but that is as likely now as
it was before the weekend. The most likely enhanced targets are
France and Germany (over the hajib issue), and in fact these two
have today called for an EU-wide emergency security conference.

The big loser in this is not the coalition forces in Iraq; rather it is
the institutions of the EU. The idea of a common defense force is
exposed as a farce (with Spain turning tail after just one bloody
nose), and continent-wide unity dealt a further blow (as the Spanish
political establishment is clearly not in the least concerned that their
actions have made life more dangerous and difficult for the rest of
the people of the EU).


all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points
to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in
Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and
perhaps more susceptible to blackmail).


Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has
the infrastructure to mount an attack.

"Tony Cox" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points
to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in
Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and
perhaps more susceptible to blackmail).


Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has
the infrastructure to mount an attack.



Who says they have to be Moslems?

Unfortuantely, sympathies toward a movement are all that are required.

Jay Beckman

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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Who says they have to be Moslems?

Because Rasterfarians aren't particularly interested in
reestablishing the Kaliphate.

"Tony Cox" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points
to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in
Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and
perhaps more susceptible to blackmail).


Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has
the infrastructure to mount an attack.

No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of
Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance
with OBL to strike.

Think about it.

"S Green" wrote in message ...
No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of
Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance
with OBL to strike.

It would be total stupidity for Chechens, paying back for so many
years of support with terrorist attack.

There are muslims in Poland: Polish tatars and immigrants. They number
is close to nil.

However, Poland unlikely would react similarly to Spain on terrorist
attack.

Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has
the infrastructure to mount an attack.

No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of
Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance
with OBL to strike.

Good point. It does not appear (at the moment, anyhow) that the
Spanish bombers were Al Qaeda at all, but rather Moroccan sympathizers
with perhaps some links to Qaeda. Indeed, they might well have worked
with the ETA.

It does appear that the war against Qaeda/Taliban in Afghanistan has
sufficiently disrupted the network that it has operated over the past
couple of years in a very different mode than it did before September
2001. It's more of a high-scale IRA/ETA/Palestianian effort. (Notice
that the Palestinians are shifting toward mass-victim attacks, under
the presumable influence of Al Qaeda's operations?)

Europe is full of guest workers, many of them from Muslim countries.
As Poland joins the EU, its borders become more open.


all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on
Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH
targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well.

Don't worry about the British. They have been dealing with American funded
Irish terrorists for years.
Also with Libyan funded Palestinian terrorists
and Israeli government terrorists blowing up Palestinians, not to mention
Iranians. They don't need patronising Americans who have only recently
discovered what terrorism is about warn them.
Lets face it the FBI and the CIA fu*ked it up well between them.

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
With this election the Spanish have actually legitimized the
very attackers they supposedly revile, and endangered
us all in the process.

True, but not the real story. The Spanish public was overwhelmingly
against the Iraq war before the bombings. The bombings may have
affected the margin, but the election results are really payback to a
party that ignored its constituents.

This election will encourage the terrorists like
nothing else has.

Unfortunately, the spin in the Muslim world will be that Al Qaeda
frightened the Spanish people into replacing their government. Score
one for the bad guys.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

Apologies to Kenny Rogers, and also to the original author of this piece
whose name I don't know.


Everyone considered him the coward of the country
He never went to Vietnam though he thought it a just war
His mamma named him Georgie, the folks just called him Dubya
But something always told me he was looking for a war


He spent Vietnam safely hidden in the air guard
Life looked after Dubya, cause he was his father's son
I still recall the fateful words when his Daddy lost to Clinton
"Son, my career's over, but yours is just begun

Promise me son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man"

There's some war for everyone and Dubya's was bin Laden
As commander in chief they'd have to treat him like a man
No matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get bin Laden
But he'd bomb other countries ...there was lots of them!

Dubya watched the TV and he saw his soldiers dyin'
The crying wives, civilian lives, a devastated land
He reached above the fireplace and took down his daddy's picture
As his pride grew on his smiling face, he heard these words again

"Promise me son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from danger if you can
They can't call you weak, if you slaughter men like sheep
I hope you're smart enough to understand
If lots of others die you'll be a man"

The other leaders laughed at him when he gave up diplomacy
Even his allies said they wouldn't support him no more
When Dubya he gave up they said, "Hey, look old Dubya's failing."
But you could have heard a bomb drop when Dubya started a new war

Fifty years of failure, was bottled up inside him
He wasn't holdin nothin back, he let 'em have it all
When Dubya finished bombing, not a country was left standing
He said, "I've a big penis" as he watched the last bomb fall
And I heard him say,

"I promised you Dad, not to the things you done
I walk away from danger when I can
Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't try diplomacy
And Papa I sure hope you understand
When lots of others die you are a man

Everyone considered him the coward of the country


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