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![]() This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and perhaps more susceptible to blackmail). On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:44:17 GMT, "Tony Cox" wrote: "Cub Driver" wrote in message .. . That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well. I disagree. Britain has always been a target. An attack would not change government policy (even if Labour were kicked out, the Conservatives are even more bullish). And the UK have a clearer sense of their global responsibilities than Spain. Of course, this doesn't preclude an attack out of spite, but that is as likely now as it was before the weekend. The most likely enhanced targets are France and Germany (over the hajib issue), and in fact these two have today called for an EU-wide emergency security conference. The big loser in this is not the coalition forces in Iraq; rather it is the institutions of the EU. The idea of a common defense force is exposed as a farce (with Spain turning tail after just one bloody nose), and continent-wide unity dealt a further blow (as the Spanish political establishment is clearly not in the least concerned that their actions have made life more dangerous and difficult for the rest of the people of the EU). all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
... This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and perhaps more susceptible to blackmail). Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has the infrastructure to mount an attack. |
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"Tony Cox" wrote in message
hlink.net... "Cub Driver" wrote in message ... This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and perhaps more susceptible to blackmail). Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has the infrastructure to mount an attack. Who says they have to be Moslems? Unfortuantely, sympathies toward a movement are all that are required. Jay Beckman |
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:Ixo5c.16719$Nj.11356@fed1read01... Who says they have to be Moslems? Because Rasterfarians aren't particularly interested in reestablishing the Kaliphate. |
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![]() "Tony Cox" wrote in message hlink.net... "Cub Driver" wrote in message ... This is addressed in the Wall Street Journal today. The writer points to Poland as the next probable target, since it too has troops in Iraq, and is more vulnerable than either the U.S. or Britain (and perhaps more susceptible to blackmail). Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has the infrastructure to mount an attack. No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance with OBL to strike. Think about it. |
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"S Green" wrote in message ...
No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance with OBL to strike. It would be total stupidity for Chechens, paying back for so many years of support with terrorist attack. There are muslims in Poland: Polish tatars and immigrants. They number is close to nil. However, Poland unlikely would react similarly to Spain on terrorist attack. |
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![]() Are there actually Muslims in Poland? I doubt Al-Qaida has the infrastructure to mount an attack. No but there are Chechen (muslim)terrorists operating in Russia and a lot of Russians in Poland. It would be easy for the Chechens who are in alliance with OBL to strike. Good point. It does not appear (at the moment, anyhow) that the Spanish bombers were Al Qaeda at all, but rather Moroccan sympathizers with perhaps some links to Qaeda. Indeed, they might well have worked with the ETA. It does appear that the war against Qaeda/Taliban in Afghanistan has sufficiently disrupted the network that it has operated over the past couple of years in a very different mode than it did before September 2001. It's more of a high-scale IRA/ETA/Palestianian effort. (Notice that the Palestinians are shifting toward mass-victim attacks, under the presumable influence of Al Qaeda's operations?) Europe is full of guest workers, many of them from Muslim countries. As Poland joins the EU, its borders become more open. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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![]() "Cub Driver" wrote in message ... That was my reaction also. I don't know if it makes random attacks on Spanish targets more likely, but it certainly makes attacks on BRITISH targets more likely. Probably Polish targets as well. Don't worry about the British. They have been dealing with American funded Irish terrorists for years. Also with Libyan funded Palestinian terrorists and Israeli government terrorists blowing up Palestinians, not to mention Iranians. They don't need patronising Americans who have only recently discovered what terrorism is about warn them. Lets face it the FBI and the CIA fu*ked it up well between them. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
With this election the Spanish have actually legitimized the very attackers they supposedly revile, and endangered us all in the process. True, but not the real story. The Spanish public was overwhelmingly against the Iraq war before the bombings. The bombings may have affected the margin, but the election results are really payback to a party that ignored its constituents. This election will encourage the terrorists like nothing else has. Unfortunately, the spin in the Muslim world will be that Al Qaeda frightened the Spanish people into replacing their government. Score one for the bad guys. -- Dan C172RG at BFM (remove pants to reply by email) |
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Apologies to Kenny Rogers, and also to the original author of this piece
whose name I don't know. Everyone considered him the coward of the country He never went to Vietnam though he thought it a just war His mamma named him Georgie, the folks just called him Dubya But something always told me he was looking for a war He spent Vietnam safely hidden in the air guard Life looked after Dubya, cause he was his father's son I still recall the fateful words when his Daddy lost to Clinton "Son, my career's over, but yours is just begun Promise me son, not to do the things I've done Walk away from danger if you can They can't call you weak if you slaughter men like sheep I hope you're smart enough to understand If lots of others die you'll be a man" There's some war for everyone and Dubya's was bin Laden As commander in chief they'd have to treat him like a man No matter how hard he tried he just couldn't get bin Laden But he'd bomb other countries ...there was lots of them! Dubya watched the TV and he saw his soldiers dyin' The crying wives, civilian lives, a devastated land He reached above the fireplace and took down his daddy's picture As his pride grew on his smiling face, he heard these words again "Promise me son, not to do the things I've done Walk away from danger if you can They can't call you weak, if you slaughter men like sheep I hope you're smart enough to understand If lots of others die you'll be a man" The other leaders laughed at him when he gave up diplomacy Even his allies said they wouldn't support him no more When Dubya he gave up they said, "Hey, look old Dubya's failing." But you could have heard a bomb drop when Dubya started a new war Fifty years of failure, was bottled up inside him He wasn't holdin nothin back, he let 'em have it all When Dubya finished bombing, not a country was left standing He said, "I've a big penis" as he watched the last bomb fall And I heard him say, "I promised you Dad, not to the things you done I walk away from danger when I can Now please don't think I'm weak, I didn't try diplomacy And Papa I sure hope you understand When lots of others die you are a man Everyone considered him the coward of the country " |
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