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Old April 19th 04, 04:46 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Actually, CJ, you should go back and follow the thread a little more
closely, and maybe read it without your blinders on.

The conservative view presented was that liberals want to take other
people's assets and redistribute them. I responded that conservatives
want to take other people's assets and keep them for themselves. The
response was that conservatives don't want other people's assets, and I
disagree with that completely.

You read my statement as a bitter one of resentment. Actually, I it was a
simple plain fact of the Free Market economy.

I made no mention of stealing. The Free Market in the US requires that
people redistribute assets in order to get rich. Most people don't get
rich based solely on their hourly rate. They get rich by buying low and
selling high - real estate, stocks, antiques on a road show, or whatever.

In the free market economy, someone wins, and someone loses.


You need to sue your economics teacher.


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Old April 19th 04, 06:08 AM
C J Campbell
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I made no mention of stealing. The Free Market in the US requires that
people redistribute assets in order to get rich. Most people don't get
rich based solely on their hourly rate. They get rich by buying low and
selling high - real estate, stocks, antiques on a road show, or whatever.

In the free market economy, someone wins, and someone loses.


You really don't have a clue, do you, about economics?


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Old April 20th 04, 01:35 AM
Judah
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No clue at all. But then, this is not an economics forum.



"C J Campbell" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I made no mention of stealing. The Free Market in the US requires that
people redistribute assets in order to get rich. Most people don't get
rich based solely on their hourly rate. They get rich by buying low
and selling high - real estate, stocks, antiques on a road show, or
whatever.

In the free market economy, someone wins, and someone loses.


You really don't have a clue, do you, about economics?



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Old April 19th 04, 03:50 AM
David Brooks
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Judah" wrote in message
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How, exactly, do the rich get richer without taking other people's

assets?


Here we have the crux of what passes for liberalism these days. Idiot.

The assumption is that if you possess something, it must have been stolen
from somebody else. It is astounding that liberals, who claim to be
intellectuals, cannot see the blatant fallacy behind this argument.


Oh, please read the liberal economists. They understand perfectly well the
principles of investment and growth, and that any successful economy cannot
be zero-sum.

The differences arise partly from a moral impulse to greater equity, even at
the cost of diluting some of the potential upside, and partly from a belief
that we are wasting leverage by (a) under-investment in the currently
disadvantaged and (b) allowing corporations to take short-term advantage at
the cost of longer-term greater universal gain (example: stop the polluters
because no credible free-market mechanism will stop them in time).

We're not all as idiotic as some of the postings make us appear.

I'd rather fly than argue any day :-)

-- David Brooks


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Old April 19th 04, 06:11 AM
C J Campbell
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"David Brooks" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Judah" wrote in message
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How, exactly, do the rich get richer without taking other people's

assets?


Here we have the crux of what passes for liberalism these days. Idiot.

The assumption is that if you possess something, it must have been

stolen
from somebody else. It is astounding that liberals, who claim to be
intellectuals, cannot see the blatant fallacy behind this argument.


Oh, please read the liberal economists. They understand perfectly well the
principles of investment and growth, and that any successful economy

cannot
be zero-sum.


Are there any left? Keynes (as he famously predicted) is dead. :-) To
paraphrase Milton Friedman, we are all monetarists now.


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Old April 18th 04, 02:44 AM
Judah
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What, exactly, then, do conservatives want?


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Correct. They want to just take other peoples assets and keep them.


Wrong. Conservatives don't want to take other peoples assets at all.



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Old April 18th 04, 03:22 AM
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"Judah" wrote in message
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What, exactly, then, do conservatives want?


Freedom.


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Old April 18th 04, 05:05 AM
Judah
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Freedom for who? And from what?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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What, exactly, then, do conservatives want?


Freedom.



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Old April 18th 04, 10:14 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Freedom for who?


For everyone.



And from what?


The natural constraints on freedom are other people's freedom.


 




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