New security bulletin

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:12:39 -0700, NW_PILOT wrote:

what if they took a shot and missed what goes up must come down ware is all
that explosive going to go over a populated area how about the shrapnel from
the poor Cessna that get blow to smithereens.

collateral damage ...

but you know all them people
taking them pansy pills probably think it would be fireworks until shrapnel
started killing people. I could see the headline


eehhh ... that's ok ... it'S for the fight against terrorism.

don't you agree? you _have_ to agree.
no? are you a terrorist?


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Teacherjh wrote:

Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation. I can see the administration
feeding the press the story that this was a huge threat and pumping up what
terrorist damage a small airplane can do, and that there was no time to
consider alternatives (like the cops who shoot somebody who brandishes a toy
gun). I can see this as JUSTIFYING huge TFRs around events, with multple rings
and multple escalations of force for intrusions.

I think you're exactly correct. In fact, I'd bet there are people in the TSA who are
drooling over the opportunity to do exactly that.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

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Teacherjh wrote:

Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that
idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation. I can see the
administration
feeding the press the story that this was a huge threat and pumping up
what
terrorist damage a small airplane can do, and that there was no time to
consider alternatives (like the cops who shoot somebody who brandishes a
toy
gun). I can see this as JUSTIFYING huge TFRs around events, with
multple rings
and multple escalations of force for intrusions.

I think you're exactly correct. In fact, I'd bet there are people in the
TSA who are
drooling over the opportunity to do exactly that.

There are rumblings in Washington that the TSA is no longer needed and
should be done away with. The thought is to return airport security to the
private sector.


George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

"Teacherjh" wrote in message

Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that
idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation.

Didn't some kid in Florida fly a Cessna into a building awhile back?
That passed and the media flavor was more one of "what a dumbass."

-c

Vigo wrote:
lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150 out
of the sky. I think this is an election year for you guys, so have no fear I
can't see them shooting anyone down.

This sounds like every day life in and around the Wasington ADIZ. They
don't blast you out of the sky (ADIZ), but they do force you to land.

--- Jay


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Jay Masino wrote:

This sounds like every day life in and around the Wasington ADIZ.
They don't blast you out of the sky (ADIZ), but they do force you to
land.

Maybe "force" isn't the right word. They don't force pilots to land any
more than a cop forces you to pull over by turning on his lights.

However, the *implied* threat of force makes the non-terrorists follow
instructions.

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Vigo wrote:

lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150 out
of the sky. I think this is an election year for you guys, so have no fear I
can't see them shooting anyone down.

They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at, say, 400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts flying a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do absolutely anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

lol no doubt I like that one.
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Vigo wrote:

lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150
out
of the sky. I think this is an election year for you guys, so have no
fear I
can't see them shooting anyone down.

They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at, say,
400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart
attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts flying
a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do absolutely
anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at, say,
400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart
attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts flying
a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do absolutely
anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

Was a website some years ago by two guys who tried to see how close to Groom
Lake they could get in a Cessna without actually violating airspace. Had
photos. They were buzzed somewhat as you described. :

The other interesting photo was the transponder bulb. It was pegged solid.
He claims they were lit up so hard that it damaged the xpdr, but I don't see
how that's possible unless the bulb just overheated or something.

-c

http://www.serve.com/mahood/nellis/flight.htm

"gatt" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at,
say,
400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart
attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts
flying
a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do
absolutely
anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

Was a website some years ago by two guys who tried to see how close to
Groom
Lake they could get in a Cessna without actually violating airspace. Had
photos. They were buzzed somewhat as you described. :

The other interesting photo was the transponder bulb. It was pegged
solid.
He claims they were lit up so hard that it damaged the xpdr, but I don't
see
how that's possible unless the bulb just overheated or something.

-c