Pilot's Political Orientation

"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
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So I get to pay to keep people in food, shelter and entertainment for
doing
bad things? No thanks.


Hey, I don't like it either, but that's a separate issue from the deterrent
effect of different types of punishment.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:36 GMT, "Richard Hertz"
wrote:

It warmed my heart when I moved to the south a few years back to see convict
road crews doing work. Now, maybe it costs us more to pay the guards to
watch them and for insurance, etc, but at least we get something out of it.

My two ¢:

Convict laborers displace regular workers. A far better solution
would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That
way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are
compensated.

But the prison systems have become cash cows for private enterprise.
Prison operating contractors have no financial incentive to
rehabilitate inmates. Quite the opposite, there is incentive to
create more inmates, so that more prisons will be built and
Wackinhut's business will increase. Corporate self interest is at the
root of many of society's ills.

Convict laborers displace regular workers.

Regular workers displace other regular workers.


A far better solution
would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That
way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are
compensated.


Assuming you mean with money, where do they get this money? If they work for
it, that displaces other workers. If they don't work for it, this uses up
paper and green ink.

Jose

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On 23 Jun 2004 13:40:26 GMT, (Teacherjh)
wrote:

A far better solution
would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That
way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are
compensated.


Assuming you mean with money, where do they get this money? If they work for
it, that displaces other workers. If they don't work for it, this uses up
paper and green ink.


Oh, there you go thinking logically grin. Far better minds than
mine have given the concept of convict restitution a lot of thought.
Here's a clue: http://tinyurl.com/22c25

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:36 GMT, "Richard Hertz"
wrote:

It warmed my heart when I moved to the south a few years back to see
convict
road crews doing work. Now, maybe it costs us more to pay the guards to
watch them and for insurance, etc, but at least we get something out of
it.

My two ¢:

Convict laborers displace regular workers. A far better solution
would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That
way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are
compensated.

But the prison systems have become cash cows for private enterprise.
Prison operating contractors have no financial incentive to
rehabilitate inmates. Quite the opposite, there is incentive to
create more inmates, so that more prisons will be built and
Wackinhut's business will increase. Corporate self interest is at the
root of many of society's ills.


Um, no. Self-interest of humans is the root of many ills. Particularly
from criminals. if corporations behave in illegal manners, they are
punished, so too should criminals be punished. Blaming "corporations" for
the failing of people is a cop out.

"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
t...

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

But the prison systems have become cash cows for private enterprise.
Prison operating contractors have no financial incentive to
rehabilitate inmates. Quite the opposite, there is incentive to
create more inmates, so that more prisons will be built and
Wackinhut's business will increase. Corporate self interest is at the
root of many of society's ills.


Um, no. Self-interest of humans is the root of many ills.

It's also the source (context, please) of all good. How is criminal behavior
and any way in ones "self-interest"?

Particularly
from criminals. if corporations behave in illegal manners, they are
punished, so too should criminals be punished. Blaming "corporations" for
the failing of people is a cop out.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:02:19 GMT, "Richard Hertz"
wrote:

if corporations behave in illegal manners, they are punished

Oh, you mean like Enron was punished? :-)

Get real.

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:02:19 GMT, "Richard Hertz"
wrote:

if corporations behave in illegal manners, they are punished

Oh, you mean like Enron was punished? :-)

Enron is all but gone. Compare that with what it was doing on
the late 90s while the goverment looked the other way. Enron
leaders are now in prison, and more are expected to follow.

Get real yourself.

Richard Hertz wrote:

So I get to pay to keep people in food, shelter and entertainment for doing
bad things? No thanks.

I just look at it as a bribe I pay the State to keep these people away from me.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.