is it just me?

Andrew Gideon wrote:



More seriously: I've only had a tire fail once during my 400+ hours of
flying, so perhaps it isn't terribly likely. However, I have been waved
off in the past for other reasons. Perhaps these can all be classified as
"controller missequencing", but - given that a lot of students are flying
around my "home" airport - I'd be surprised if none of the blame falls to
those students.

I worked for four years at an airport where 95% of the traffic was from
the University of North Dakota. Nothing but flight training. Students
beat the hell out of airplanes and I don't recall any flat tires on the
trainers. The flats all seem to happen to the biz jets and big twins.


But this is all beside the point (although interesting). The fact is that
controllers do occasionally have to wave off an aircraft previously cleared
for landing.

At GFK we had probably 50 go arounds a day for any number of reasons.
However disabled aircraft on the runway wasn't one of the top 10
factors. Here at BIL we have hardly any flight training anymore and I
can't remember the last time I saw a go around. Although there are a
few reasons for that too.

Newps wrote:

I worked for four years at an airport where 95% of the traffic was from
the University of North Dakota. Nothing but flight training. Students
beat the hell out of airplanes and I don't recall any flat tires on the
trainers. The flats all seem to happen to the biz jets and big twins.

Interesting. Well, it happened to me once.

[Yes, it was in a 172 also used for training.]


But this is all beside the point (although interesting). The fact is
that controllers do occasionally have to wave off an aircraft previously
cleared for landing.

At GFK we had probably 50 go arounds a day for any number of reasons.
However disabled aircraft on the runway wasn't one of the top 10
factors. Here at BIL we have hardly any flight training anymore and I
can't remember the last time I saw a go around. Although there are a
few reasons for that too.

That *is* interesting. It helps explain why I've experienced this more at
CDW than elsewhere. I thought it because most of my landings, over the
years, have been there (it's where I did my primary and instrument
training). But CDW is also a "training heavy" airport.

Not that this is too meaningful, but I cannot recall a single instance of a
go-around being required at a controlled airport not CDW. I can recall
hearing a go-around issued at CDW just this past week.

- Andrew

Newps wrote:



Andrew Gideon wrote:




In the US on Earth, the controller has to make certain assumptions.

We make thousands of assumptions everyday.

True.

[...]

That happens all the time. There is no such thing as a go around proof
sequence.

I know.

**** happens.

I forgot that reason: animal incursion (and activities {8^) on the runway.

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:



**** happens.


I forgot that reason: animal incursion (and activities {8^) on the runway.

Yep, a few weeks ago aHorizon Dash 8 told me "Tower, we just hit
something on the runway." We send the truck out onto the runway and
they needed a shovel to pick up the remains of some animal. It wasn't
until the Horizon pilot checked his nosewheel and found a few hundred
quills stuck in the tire did we realize it was a porcupine.