Run In With Mr. Edwards

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:09:19 GMT, "Peter Gottlieb"
wrote in
: :


Just be glad you don't live in an area subject to repeated TFRs and other
restrictions. Those of us in such areas have been raising the alarm for
quite some time but until you get a small taste of what it is like you
really can't understand the feeling.

There is a lot of truth about that phenomenon not only regarding ill
conceived aviation security responses, but to local airport closures,
to military airspace grabs, to irresponsible military operations, to
biased NTSB reports, to ...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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They should have shot the lying, treasonous war
criminal a long time ago. He betrayed his country, he betrayed everyone
who
served in Vietnam, he met with enemy leaders, he deliberately killed
babies
and then justified by claiming in Congressional testimony that everyone
else
was doing it

While I share some of your distaste for Mr. Kerry, CJ, I think you've
taken
your point "a bit" too far. Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable
man,
and I wish him the best in the upcoming election.

I don't want this to become a "bash Kerry" or "trash Bush" thread. What
we,
as pilots, need, is to discuss intelligent, constructive ways to influence
our government officials so that ridiculous crap like this doesn't happen
to
more and more pilots.

I'm all for logical, sensible security strategies for our presidential
candidates, but what they did to my family was just stupid. We weren't a
threat, and we couldn't have become a threat. If they THOUGHT we were
potential threats, they could have escorted us to our plane, and searched
it. They could have had the FBO guys tow my plane to the OTHER FBO on the
OTHER side of the field, and we could have departed from there. (Those
planes were coming and going freely throughout this episode.)

They had a myriad of options, all of which they chose to ignore. The only
thing that satisfied them was my complete immobility, which is no
different
than treating me like a suspected criminal.

They wouldn't dare treat a suspected criminal the way they treated you.
They have laws protecting them. We have the patriot act which puts the law
abiding citizen somewhat lower than pond scum.

And I resent it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Dave Stadt wrote:

They wouldn't dare treat a suspected criminal the way they treated you.

They wouldn't dare say "Excuse me sir, you can't go through that door"? Of course
they would.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I don't want this to become a "bash Kerry" or "trash Bush" thread.

What a bizarre thing to write. You *started* the thread as a "bash Kerry"
(well, bash his VP candidate) thread.

In article , "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

I don't want this to become a "bash Kerry" or "trash Bush" thread.

What a bizarre thing to write. You *started* the thread as a "bash Kerry"
(well, bash his VP candidate) thread.

I saw it as more of a bash the stupid protection post.

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:%F9Wc.69882$TI1.15818@attbi_s52...
While I share some of your distaste for Mr. Kerry, CJ, I think you've
taken
your point "a bit" too far. Kerry is (or, at least, was) an honorable
man,
and I wish him the best in the upcoming election.

He NEVER was an honorable man and now he's just a psychotic and pathological
liar that's been shoved in front of the camera for "one last fling" much
the way Bob Dole was in 1996.

Tom,

He NEVER was an honorable man and now he's just a psychotic and pathological
liar that's been shoved in front of the camera for "one last fling" much
the way Bob Dole was in 1996.


The CJ types are really coming out of their holes in this thread... Sad!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

CJ. **** You, you sanctimonious, psycotic piece of ****, faggot, scum
sucking, lying whore of the bushies.

I've wanted to say that for a long ****ing time but didn't out of
poloiteness to the rest of the group. . **** that and **** you. I hope you
rot in your own excrement.

And your faggot, coward loverboy Bush is the biggest, phoniest asshole I've
ever seen. It's people like you who **** up the bell curve and make it
possible for such lying sack of ****, self serving liars to get in office to
begin with.

There. Now I feel better.

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much
more in the settings of his novels.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.

I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign.

But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured.

I sincerely hope not. They should have shot the lying, treasonous war
criminal a long time ago. He betrayed his country, he betrayed everyone
who
served in Vietnam, he met with enemy leaders, he deliberately killed
babies
and then justified by claiming in Congressional testimony that everyone
else
was doing it, he left his one of his own men for dead while fleeing from
an
imaginary attack and only turned around when shamed into it, two of his
Purple Hearts are for self inflicted wounds, he disgraced the medals that
he
is now so proud of, and he plotted to kill United States senators. He does
not deny any of this; instead he resorts to personal attacks against those
who are exposing the truth about him. If personal attacks do not silence
his
enemies, he resorts to threats of violence and lawsuits, which shows what
he
thinks of freedom of speech.

It speaks volumes about the Democrats that they have sunk so low as to put
such a slimeball up for the Presidency. The Democratic Party no longer
respects America or Americans, but is solely focused on using fraud and
deceit to achieve power in any way that it can. If this behavior continues
the only outcome can be civil war.

mike regish wrote:
CJ. **** You, you sanctimonious, psycotic piece of ****, faggot, scum
sucking, lying whore of the bushies.

I've wanted to say that for a long ****ing time but didn't out of
poloiteness to the rest of the group. . **** that and **** you. I
hope you rot in your own excrement.

And your faggot, coward loverboy Bush is the biggest, phoniest
asshole I've ever seen. It's people like you who **** up the bell
curve and make it possible for such lying sack of ****, self serving
liars to get in office to begin with.

There. Now I feel better.

mike regish



You have major issues.



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____________________________
Ah, Young Grasshopper.
Sometimes it is eyes that blind a man.

Yup.

And I've been reading that psychos bull**** for way too long.

mike regish

"Grasshopper" wrote in message
m...



You have major issues.



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____________________________
Ah, Young Grasshopper.
Sometimes it is eyes that blind a man.