Run In With Mr. Edwards

In article Re9Wc.39273$Fg5.12500@attbi_s53, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Honestly, the political class -- on BOTH sides of the aisle -- are
getting
waay too big for their britches.

They got way too big for their britches years ago.

cripes, we have to treat lousy stinkin' staffers like they
are VIPs. (-{

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

Are you telling me that as a serious contender for the California gubernatorial
office in October last year I should have had police protection?

We landed in Fresno at the same time the Goobernator was there three weeks
before the election, and he had cops coming out his ears. We were lucky to have
people to fuel the aircraft.

Just some random thoughts, mindya...

Jim



"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

- Only if it is the Democrat. If it is the Republican, stand by for flowers
-and
- poetry.
-
-Hee hee! Ahem, not true.
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Are you telling me that as a serious contender for the California
gubernatorial
office in October last year I should have had police protection?

No.

But a personal security agent who happened to look exactly like Trinity (See
"The Matrix" sometime, Jim) would've been nice, I'm sure...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jim Weir wrote:

Are you telling me that as a serious contender for the California gubernatorial
office in October last year I should have had police protection?

Maybe. Has anybody tried to shoot a California gubernatorial candidate?

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

Jim Weir wrote:

Only if it is the Democrat. If it is the Republican, stand by for flowers and
poetry.

Is Golan Cipel the poet on duty?

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

[...]
...and then we remembered the season, and where we were. It HAD to be a
presidential election-related visit of some sort -- but who?
[...]
This left the Kerry/Edwards campaign as the primary suspects, and we were
not to be disappointed.

As soon as we were inside the FBO, the Kerry/Edwards "Real Deal" Boeing 727
plane rolled in. John Edwards was making an appearance in Des Moines, and
we were lucky to get in when we did -- cuz the ramp was slammed shut, tight
as a drum, as soon as he arrived.
[...]
[...] the V.P.-wannabee
[...]
while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727
[...]
for Mr. Perfect-Hair.
[...]
Finally Mr. Ketchup's side-kick taxied out [...]
[...]
[...] Worse, Edwards isn't even THERE yet -- he's
just a wannabee! He is nothing, absolutely NOTHING -- yet we are treating
him like royalty, and my family was treated like criminals when we were
anywhere near him.

hmmm. you found the nicest words ...

If this is what we have to look forward to under a
Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come.

what happens with the current administration?
what have you wished? a TFR for Edwards?
in 'days like these' this was the best that could happen to you as a pilot.

As we climbed out I laughingly told my kids that this was "your tax-dollars
at work." I then closed my eyes and wished fervently that 9/11 had never
happened...
[...]

I think that this also happened before 9/11.

#m
--
The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil,
the less one is tempted to place the Good
in question. (J.P. Sartre)

Now you must realize that my plane was MAYBE 40 feet from the door he was
blocking, while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727 was several hundred yards
farther out. I pointed this fact out to him, and also pointed to my
children, stating that all we wanted to do was get off the ground before
dark, since neither of us were legal to fly at night.

A bit off topic (and I don't want to diminish your point), but I just want
to make sure I understand the regulations...
Couldn't you or Mary just do three quick patterns (full-stop) and be legal
to fly at night?

Adam

"The Weiss Family" wrote in message
...
Now you must realize that my plane was MAYBE 40 feet from the door he was
blocking, while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727 was several hundred yards
farther out. I pointed this fact out to him, and also pointed to my
children, stating that all we wanted to do was get off the ground before
dark, since neither of us were legal to fly at night.

A bit off topic (and I don't want to diminish your point), but I just want
to make sure I understand the regulations...
Couldn't you or Mary just do three quick patterns (full-stop) and be legal
to fly at night?

If it wasn't dark yet in DSM, it'd be hard to get night current to be able
to land at IOW an hour after sunset. I suspect that it'd take Jay about an
hour to fly from DSM to IOW. I guess he could have landed after dark
somewhere between DSM and IOW, let everybody out and done the 3 full stop
landings and continue on. Jay didn't state what time this was happening, but
if he could have gotten into IOW by around 9:15PM, he would be legal. He may
have just used the night flying excuse to try to get out sooner. The
security people probably don't know anything about night currency.

Couldn't you or Mary just do three quick patterns (full-stop) and be legal
to fly at night?

Sure, but that would be terribly impractical.

It was rapidly approaching dusk, with no known end to our delay. To get
night current means waiting until complete darkness, and doing 3 landings.
This would have meant either waiting until legal darkness in Des Moines, or
stopping somewhere along the way home.

With the kids along, neither choice was good. In practice, we probably
would have just stayed the night, rather than screwing around with it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article Gj9Wc.212654$eM2.14888@attbi_s51, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Couldn't you or Mary just do three quick patterns (full-stop) and be
legal
to fly at night?

Sure, but that would be terribly impractical.

would beat the heck out of staying the night.


It was rapidly approaching dusk, with no known end to our delay. To get
night current means waiting until complete darkness,

no. You have to wait for one hour after sunset.
darkness has nothing to do with it. (or have I misread 61.57?)

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.