Another Cirrus 'chute deployment

"C J Campbell" wrote:

"C J Campbell" wrote:
None of the Cirrus models will recover from a spin.

Oh, baloney, Chris.

If it is baloney, show me even one single instance where a Cirrus
recovered
from a spin.

sigh All right, I'll start digging. I know I've read that CD factory
pilots have recovered from spins many times: I'll find it. And BTW,
why are spin recovery procedures given in the POH?

Meanwhile, what backup have you got for your assertion that "None of the
Cirrus models will recover from a spin?" Certification standards
applied to the airplanes don't count.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

C J Campbell wrote:
Cirrus models will recover from a spin. The only spin recovery
method in the manual is to deploy the parachute.

BOGUS INFORMATION ALERT!

"Ryan Ferguson" wrote in message
.. .
C J Campbell wrote:
Cirrus models will recover from a spin. The only spin recovery
method in the manual is to deploy the parachute.

BOGUS INFORMATION ALERT!

Even Cirrus says they have never spun the airplane. If you have information
otherwise, please show it to us.

Glad the chute worked, but what would cause an airplane to stall at 16,000
feet, then encounter turbulence that would send it into a spin at 15,000
feet? At that height it would seem a stall should be pretty simple to
recover from, although, once again, I can't imagine what would make the
plane stall in the first place during cruise.

Michael


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du...or/9723097.htm

"Michael 182" wrote:
Glad the chute worked, but what would cause an airplane to stall at
16,000 feet, then encounter turbulence that would send it into a spin
at 15,000 feet? At that height it would seem a stall should be pretty
simple to recover from, although, once again, I can't imagine what
would make the plane stall in the first place during cruise.

Well, remember that this report comes from a typically aviation-ignorant
reporter. The NTSB report may be more revealing.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Michael 182 wrote:

Glad the chute worked, but what would cause an airplane to stall at 16,000
feet, then encounter turbulence that would send it into a spin at 15,000
feet?

My take on the article, based on past news media aviation ignorance, is
that the engine most likely quit at 16,000.

Remember: One must think like the new media to interpret the new
media.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
...
Michael 182 wrote:

Glad the chute worked, but what would cause an airplane to stall at
16,000
feet, then encounter turbulence that would send it into a spin at 15,000
feet?

My take on the article, based on past news media aviation ignorance, is
that the engine most likely quit at 16,000.

I know we are all engaged in guesswork at this point, but if an engine fails
at 16,000 feet I would expect that there is a nice long glide availble
(regardless of turbulence) that would likely yield a pretty good landing
spot. I know, I wasn't there - I'm not judging, just wondering...

Michael

Michael 182 wrote:

"Peter R." wrote in message
...
Michael 182 wrote:

Glad the chute worked, but what would cause an airplane to stall at
16,000
feet, then encounter turbulence that would send it into a spin at 15,000
feet?

My take on the article, based on past news media aviation ignorance, is
that the engine most likely quit at 16,000.

I know we are all engaged in guesswork at this point, but if an engine fails
at 16,000 feet I would expect that there is a nice long glide availble
(regardless of turbulence) that would likely yield a pretty good landing
spot. I know, I wasn't there - I'm not judging, just wondering...

I totally agree with you. BTW, I am not speculating, just interpreting
the article.

--
Peter

I know we are all engaged in guesswork at this point, but if an engine
fails
at 16,000 feet I would expect that there is a nice long glide availble
(regardless of turbulence) that would likely yield a pretty good landing
spot. I know, I wasn't there - I'm not judging, just wondering...

Having just flown in that part of the world, I can safely say that an engine
failure at 16K *might* only give you a couple of thousand feet to think
about finding a landing spot, depending on the terrain. A long glide might
not be in the cards.

Worse, there were plenty of spots in the mountains where an engine failure
would have been non-survivable.

Unless, of course, you had a ballistic 'chute to deploy, like this guy did.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du...or/9723097.htm

I'm a bit concerned that I never heard about another recent deployment...

"Still, the parachute system has not proven a cure-all, as evidenced by the
Sept. 10 crash of a Cirrus SR22 in Park Falls, Wis. That crash claimed the life
of Gerald Miller, 60, of Seboygan, Wis."

It doesn't make clear whether the old fellow in Sheboygan deployed...