Election saturation

Yesterday, I was signing up for DSL with SBC and asked the tech guy
where he was. "India" was the response.
Isn't there some American on welfare that could do that job from home?

No.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Art Johnson wrote:

Yesterday, I was signing up for DSL with SBC and asked the tech guy
where he was. "India" was the response.
Isn't there some American on welfare that could do that job from home?

Not likely.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

(Art Johnson) wrote in message . com...

Yesterday, I was signing up for DSL with SBC and asked the tech guy
where he was. "India" was the response.
Isn't there some American on welfare that could do that job from home?

There is possibly a qualified tech on welfare that could do that
job. The problem is that he would have to take a pay cut from welfare
in order to compete with the guy in India.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Art Johnson ) wrote:
:
: Yesterday, I was signing up for DSL with SBC and asked the tech guy
: where he was. "India" was the response.
:

True...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?R1BC539E4
A lively chat with 'Floyd'

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/19/BU92987.DTL&type=business
A lively chat with 'Floyd'


http://makeashorterlink.com/?I26152E83
SBC's 'Floyd' attracts PUC's eye

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/21/BU227355.DTL&type=business
SBC's 'Floyd' attracts PUC's eye


:
: Isn't there some American on welfare that could do that job from home?
:

Probably, but not for what someone in India makes.

Most of the U.S. welfare hotlines are answered in India...

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Your Tax Dollars At Work...Offsho
How Foreign Outsourcing Firms Are Capturing State Government Contracts

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http://www.washtech.org/reports/TaxDollarsAtWork/
offshoring_finaltext_pdf.pdf
Your Tax Dollars At Work...Offsho
How Foreign Outsourcing Firms Are Capturing State Government Contracts

"...Interviews with EBT officials in every state and the District of
Columbia reveal that:

o Before the offshoring controversy began, the call centers for 42 states
and the District of Columbia were operating offshore. In most cases,
this occurred because the states gave EBT contracts to Citibank
Electronic Financial Services, which in turn subcontracted the call
center work to an Indian firm called MsourcE. (In 2003 Citibank sold
the business to J.P. Morgan Chase, which continued to use MsourcE.)
A smaller number of states ended up with offshore call centers through
their EBT contracts with eFunds Corporation or Affiliated Computer
Services Inc.

o As a result of the controversy, one state (New Jersey) has brought its
call center back to the United States, and five states (Arizona, Kansas,
North Carolina, Oregon and Wisconsin) are planning to do the same.

o Eight states (Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Mississippi, Montana, Ohio, Texas,
and Wyoming) avoided the use of offshore call centers because they hired
EBT contractors that used domestic facilities."



--Jerry Leslie
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FSS becomes one big call center somewhere in Georgia

Possibly Georgia in the former USSR...or India.

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Blanche wrote:
FSS becomes one big call center somewhere in Georgia

Possibly Georgia in the former USSR...or India.


Elbonia!


--
Eduardo K. | Darwin pone las reglas.
| Murphy, la oportunidad.
http://e.nn.cl |
| Yo.

"C Kingsbury" wrote in message ink.net...
snip
but the most immediate effect will be to drive out all of the
good people who remain as FSS becomes one big call center somewhere in
Georgia. Of course, those people are disappearing over time anyway so I'm
not so convinced anything we do at this point is going to make a difference
anyway.

This already happened when the AFSS system was implemented in the
early 90s. Prior to that, you could go into a FSS office in, say,
Burley, Idaho on a bad weather day, and get a comprehesive briefing
from a local FSS expert that was familiar with the local terrain and
weather patterns. With the advent of approximately 1 AFSS for each
state (with the exception of Alaska), much of that expertise
disappeared and, more often than not, a briefing turned into a canned
reading of a standard report, from a specialist that could be located
in a windowless room, hundreds of miles away.

As it stands now, it wouldn't make any difference to me if all of
the AFSS were consolidated into a giant call center in Georgia (the
state, not the republic :-)). The briefing I get would be the same
either way.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban wrote:

With the advent of approximately 1 AFSS for each
state (with the exception of Alaska), much of that expertise
disappeared and, more often than not, a briefing turned into a canned
reading of a standard report, from a specialist that could be located
in a windowless room, hundreds of miles away.

This is 100% the fault of the lawyers. The FAA and thus the taxpayers,
cannot afford to have briefers with local knoweledge. Some guy that
knows you should fly over this mountain pass but not that one when the
weather goes to hell is a luxury that the lawyers do not allow the FAA
to have. FSS does not ever suggest anything helpful to you anymore,
they simply read you the weather and you are forced to make your own
interpretation. Because of the lawyers.

"Newps" wrote in message
...

This is 100% the fault of the lawyers. The FAA and thus the taxpayers,

I wonder how they manage in Alaska. I'm sure plenty of the planes that go
into mountainsides up there received briefings that didn't say, "Don't fly
there today." Alaskans might not sue but I'm sure the families of all the
tourists who go up there are less understanding.

-cwk.

Jay Honeck wrote:

You know it's election season when...


I called Fort Dodge Flight Service today for a briefing. The FSS briefer
asked for my credit card number!

Taken aback, I laughed and asked if they took "Discover." He laughed, but
quite seriously said "That's what it will be like if they out-source us..."

"They" meaning, I suspect, the Bush Administration?

I'll be really glad when this election is behind us.

FSS won't be outsourced. What you'll see is a giant consolidation into
a very few or even one FSS, probably into the middle of the country,
although it doesn't really matter where.