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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
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The word "regulated" was used at the time of the writing of the Bill of
Rights to mean "trained".

The militia was all the male citizens.

At the time it meant "efficient" and/or "accurate"

It derived from "regular", as in regularity...as in frequent bowel
movements...


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Cecil Chapman wrote:

Guns
He's a hunter, I'm pretty sure they use guns for that (he's not a
bowhunter). Just because one doesn't support ownership of AK-47's and
public access to armor-piercing bullets doesn't make one an enemy to gun
ownership. In fact, his record as a senator reveals that he has
consistently supported appropriate gun ownership. I own two shotguns and a
couple of rifles - don't hunt, but skeet and target shoot. Even still, I
just don't think the average citizen needs armor-piercing bullets or AK-47's
(unless you live in remote parts of Alaska grin)/.

He's only a hunter when there is a camera around. His comments about
hunting show that he hasn't a clue about hunting. Funny, I don't recall
the second amendment ever mentioning hunting, or "appropriate" gun
ownership. You must have a different constitution than I have.

Kerry is so hypocritical he makes even Bill Clinton look like an honest man.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote


Kerry is so hypocritical he makes even Bill Clinton look like an honest
man.


Matt

BINGO!!!
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Yep, Jim in NC, GOOD point!,,,, can YOU say WMD's?

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Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
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- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
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- Cecil Day Lewis -

Matt Whiting wrote:



He's only a hunter when there is a camera around.

What's really funny was how god damned stupid he looked in his tan color
Carhart coat he wore the last few weeks of the campaign. Trying to pass
himself off as some kind of working stiff. Damn thing was so new and
stiff it would stand up by itself on the floor. He looked like an idiot
in that thing. Like Dukakis in the tank fer christ sake.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Matt Whiting wrote:



He's only a hunter when there is a camera around.

What's really funny was how god damned stupid he looked in his tan color
Carhart coat he wore the last few weeks of the campaign. Trying to pass
himself off as some kind of working stiff. Damn thing was so new and
stiff it would stand up by itself on the floor. He looked like an idiot
in that thing. Like Dukakis in the tank fer christ sake.


If the camera had zoomed out just a little bit, you might have been able to
see the guys in turbans reloading.

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ
PP-ASEL

Couldn't have said it better myself, Cecil.

Thanks for taking the time. Too bad it's all wasted, though.

mike regish

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
m...


Guns
He's a hunter, I'm pretty sure they use guns for that (he's not a
bowhunter). Just because one doesn't support ownership of AK-47's and
public access to armor-piercing bullets doesn't make one an enemy to gun
ownership. In fact, his record as a senator reveals that he has
consistently supported appropriate gun ownership. I own two shotguns and
a couple of rifles - don't hunt, but skeet and target shoot. Even still,
I just don't think the average citizen needs armor-piercing bullets or
AK-47's (unless you live in remote parts of Alaska grin)/.

?, gay marriage

He stated he was against 'gay marriage' - but in favor of civil unions
that allowed long-time gay couples the right to visit their partner in the
hospital, claims to benefits, etc. This is something that I would think
any reasonable person would think a long-time couple would be entitled to
(regardless of the sexual orientation. You know the funny thing about this
kind of bigotry is that it reminds me of what we would hear in the 60's
"Can't let 'coloreds' have any rights and god-forbid they should be
allowed to marry white-folk". Jeesh,,, doesn't anyone EVER learn from the
lessons of the past.

When are we going to remember the line about 'separation of church and
state'. The gay population has become the new 'coloreds' - get over your
bigotry. Live and let live. A gay couple in a civil union or
marriage,,,, whatever,,,, is no threat to my marriage. In the end it is
just about two consenting adults that care about one another and
recognizing that they have pledged to spend the rest of their lives
together - that sounds pretty cool to me. Of course the ignorant
'religious right' will refer to the Bible, citing that quote regarding the
men of Sodom. I will ask these same people if they have ever done
anything wrong with their hand, or sinned by looking at something and
point out if they haven't cut off that hand or plucked out that eye they
have already violated more than a few of the directives in the Bible. and
GASP what if your women don't keep their heads covered (as mentioned in
both the Old testament AND in the NEW Testament in some of the books of
the New Testament written by Paul). Don't even get me started on the
absurd Adam and Eve story which (if you are ignorant enough to buy into
the account) makes it necessary for all their progeny to commit incest in
order to procreate - of course that would partly explain why some people
seem to have a 'birth defect' in their unreasoned thinking. grin

Regarding the 'gay marriage' issue,,, we need to develop policy based on
fairness and reason, not on some quaint historical book with a cross on
it. Jeesh,,, we might as well just worship rocks and pray to salamanders
for all the similar good it would do. Visit a children's hospital (I have
and it will break your heart),,, the children live and die the same
whether they pray to a 'god' or speak to hamsters... and personally, if
there were a divine being, I can't possibly think of a prayer more worthy
of being granted than the prayer of some dear 4 year old in a cancer ward,
just asking to see their next birthday, hardly ever seems to be 'granted'
though. Of course the 'beauty' of any superstition is that you can go on
to make excuses why it doesn't seem to work all the time, but it is still
superstition; borne from stories of magic, evil and good spirits.
Superstition is great to study, but makes a poor ruler to measure
political policy by and make legislative policy. Let's get out of the
dark ages.

, taxes

Good point,,, you're right Kerry was clearly against tax breaks for the
wealthy, the group that Bush was caught referring to during a private
dinner that was videotaped and to whom he referred to as "My own
eople" ---- Got that right, W. Thank goodness there was someone looking
out for the common man (and still is,,,, as a Senator) as John Kerry.

, the UN.

YIKES! Please tell me that you have most of your teeth and that you don't
play 'Dueling Banjos' along some remote bayou? The United Nations is
LEFTIST? Do you even know the history and original purpose of the United
Nations? Read a book! What was wrong with having a consensus (and some
help) before blundering into Vietnam... OOPS I mean Iraq? Were we under
attack,,,, NO,,,,, I seem to recall Afghanistan had posed that threat but
we never finished trying to get HIM.

You may not agree but they are.

Well, YOU would know.... After all we 'know' that God is on our
side......... ooops... that's the same thinking of Bin Laden uses

jeesh

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
m

When are we going to remember the line about 'separation of church and
state'.

Where is that line found?

Good point,,, you're right Kerry was clearly against tax breaks for
the wealthy, the group that Bush was caught referring to during a
private dinner that was videotaped and to whom he referred to as "My
own people" ---- Got that right, W. Thank goodness there was
someone looking out for the common man (and still is,,,, as a
Senator) as John Kerry.

Sorry, but you lose points on this issue. Kerry, *the* richest person in
Congress, paid less in 2003 taxes (both in percentage and in raw dollars)
than Bush (whose net worth is a fraction of Kerry's). Feel free to Google
for their 2003 tax returns and do the math. While you're at it, notice the
difference in charitable donations, too.

Face it: The Democrats have no base outside the urban areas of this country
and their values apparently are out of line with a majority of the voters.
They need to reconsider their platform if they want to appeal to American
voters again.

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John T
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John T wrote:

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
m

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Good point,,, you're right Kerry was clearly against tax breaks for
the wealthy, the group that Bush was caught referring to during a
private dinner that was videotaped and to whom he referred to as "My
own people" ---- Got that right, W. Thank goodness there was
someone looking out for the common man (and still is,,,, as a
Senator) as John Kerry.

Sorry, but you lose points on this issue. Kerry, *the* richest person in
Congress, paid less in 2003 taxes (both in percentage and in raw dollars)
than Bush (whose net worth is a fraction of Kerry's). Feel free to Google
for their 2003 tax returns and do the math. While you're at it, notice
the difference in charitable donations, too.

And clearly stated that he was against the tax cuts even though he benefited
from them. In fact he was, in effect, advocating raising his own taxes.

And while we're on the subject of Kerry's (Theresa's) wealth.... I will
never understand why this was seen as such a negative. He came upon it
honorably. More important, it insulates him from some of the special
interest pressure. After all, how do you bribe a wealthy man?

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Frank....H

Frank wrote:

In fact he was, in effect, advocating raising
his own taxes.

All he has to do is contribute more. He can start with giving away the
money he saved in tax cuts to a worthy charity. For my own part, I pay
enough in taxes and anybody - wealthy or not - saying I should pay more is
in for a bitter discussion.

And while we're on the subject of Kerry's (Theresa's) wealth.... I
will never understand why this was seen as such a negative.

I don't begrudge his wealth at all. I do find it a bit difficult to believe
that the wealthiest individual in the US Congress is "looking out for the
common man". I'm not convinced he knows what the "common man's experience"
really is. What we need in Congress is more "common men" to truly look out
for "the common man".

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John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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