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Old November 20th 04, 11:21 PM
Roger
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:18:46 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
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You know Shawn, I guess I should qualify this a bit better as I didn't
make a career of breaking FAA regulations :-)))
. This particular "buzz job" was a once in a lifetime shot. I had very
good reason to be there and to be doing it.
I was attending the funeral of a fighter pilot friend that I had missed
attending at that cemetery sixteen years earlier.......and for this
particular friend, I would do it again tomorrow :-)
D


"I understand" that chasing snowmobiles and 4-wheelers violating on
state land is interesting. I can't do it in the Deb though...It has
those great big numbers on the side. :-))

I have circled a bunch of them at minimum "legal" altitude and watched
them run for cover . They must have thought I was from the Department
of Natural Resources. Too bad they don't realize they stand out like a
sore thumb in all that brush during the winter. :-))

I once saw a B-17 do a really good imitation of the North, by North
West scene :-)) and I've seen the video tape shot from the ground.

Now THAT was a buzz job! An IMPRESSIVE buzz job!
He may not have been as fast as the P-51, but he sure was *big* and
*loud*.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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"ShawnD2112" wrote in message
news
Treetops?!?! Come on, Dudley, you gotta get LOW to consider it
buzzing! :-)

Shawn


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..

I was at a cocktail party / family reunion (not my family!) where
the
old guy reminisced about the hostess's uncle who knocked a brick off
the chimney of the family house, buzzing it with a P-51 in 1945 or
thereabouts.

*That's* buzzing!

NAH! Buzzing is taking a P51 up a country road at 8AM on a Sunday
morning at 60 inches and 3000RPM so low that the prop tips are almost
leaving a swath through the pine tree tops, then overflying a church
and cemetery at 50 feet; then pulling it off the deck into a climbing
slow roll, disappearing in a hurry before some sharp eyed character
down there had time to get the numbers.
Then after you've managed to scare the hell out of half of the
congregation at the Haywood Baptist Church in Haywood Virginia that
Sunday morning, Reader's Digest comes along and gets another 23
million people in 17 languages, Braille, and large print, to sit on
their butts on their toilets all over the world (that's where
everybody keeps Reader's Digest I think) and read all about it
without you getting arrested.
Now THAT'S buzzing!!! :-)
Dudley Henriques
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Old November 19th 04, 03:00 PM
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..


Buzzing is a maneuver where, in an effort to impress oneself or one's
friends, an idiot pilot crashes into a house.


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Old November 19th 04, 11:13 PM
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Mark,

I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.

PJ

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Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..


Buzzing is a maneuver where, in an effort to impress oneself or one's
friends, an idiot pilot crashes into a house.


Mark Kolber
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Old November 20th 04, 08:01 AM
Peter Duniho
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.


Why don't you agree with his response? Sure seemed on the mark to me.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.


There was certainly at least a touch of tongue-in-cheek to his response, but
the very truth of his response is what makes it humorous (as is usually the
case with jokes...a joke with absolutely no truth to it isn't funny at all).

Pete


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Old November 20th 04, 09:43 AM
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Hey Peter,

Although I don't condone it, I also don't agree that a properly performed
'buzz job' must end with a crash into a house, or even that it is
necessarily only performed by idiot pilots.

A few of the best pilots I've ever known have done plenty of these stunts
and more and have thousands more hours of both Mark and I combined, and they
are by no means idiots.

Just my own personal observations.

PJ

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Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.


Why don't you agree with his response? Sure seemed on the mark to me.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.


There was certainly at least a touch of tongue-in-cheek to his response,

but
the very truth of his response is what makes it humorous (as is usually

the
case with jokes...a joke with absolutely no truth to it isn't funny at

all).

Pete




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Old November 20th 04, 04:59 PM
Peter Duniho
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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Although I don't condone it, I also don't agree that a properly performed
'buzz job' must end with a crash into a house, or even that it is
necessarily only performed by idiot pilots.


I guess you and I have different definitions of what a "buzz job" is. In my
book, by definition, "buzz jobs" are performed only by idiot pilots. For
qualified pilots engaging in low, high-speed flight in a safe, well-planned
manner, I use other less-inflammatory terms.


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Old November 20th 04, 06:02 PM
Dudley Henriques
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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Hey Peter,

Although I don't condone it, I also don't agree that a properly
performed
'buzz job' must end with a crash into a house, or even that it is
necessarily only performed by idiot pilots.

A few of the best pilots I've ever known have done plenty of these
stunts
and more and have thousands more hours of both Mark and I combined,
and they
are by no means idiots.

Just my own personal observations.

PJ


Well...I'll tell ya;

I personally own what can arguably be considered the most widely
publicized "buzz job" in aviation history, so naturally I have some
comment on this issue. :-)
My little departure from the straight and narrow was a long time ago. I
felt at the time it was justified because it involved deep personal
reasons for doing it. I was wrong. It wasn't justified. I should note
here as well that this was a unique event involving extremely personal
factors. I didn't make it a habit of this kind of flying.
But looking back today on this single event, I would have to say that
all things being equal, finding myself in the same circumstances again,
and at the same time in my life that this event occurred, I would do it
again because of the unique events involved; but notice I said "at that
time in my life".
Today, I wouldn't do it. Although the circumstances led me to do this at
that time, I wouldn't do it today, nor would I encourage anyone else to
engage in unauthorized low flying, no matter what the reason.
I did it.....I'm glad I did it for the reasons I had for doing it. (Get
Reader's Digest April 1985 "A Little Help From A Friend" by Dudley
Henriques for the reasons I had for doing it) but all things
considered, it wasn't a smart move.
It's ironic that after this event, I went on to become fairly well known
as a demonstration pilot flying "authorized" low altitude aerobatics and
have been deeply involved in airshow flight safety issues all through my
professional tenure in aviation.
Buzzing can kill you, make no mistake about it. There is no reason,
personal or other wise that justifies doing it.
If there was one positive thing I took away from my little "buzz job",
it was using it later on as a negative example for the pilots I lectured
on flight safety who came after me :-)
Just for what it's worth......
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
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Old November 19th 04, 05:00 PM
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Ramapriya wrote:
What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..



That's when I cut my hair real short. You ask a lot of questions, some
suspiciously troll-like. Like this one.


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Old November 19th 04, 05:27 PM
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Ramapriya wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..


Flying very low at relatively high speed. For a typical "buzz job", you would
dive at the object you wanted to buzz, level off a few feet above the highest
point there, fly over it, and climb rapidly. It's a dangerous maneuver due to
the risk of getting too low and hitting something and the risk that you might
get distracted during the climb out, let the speed bleed off too far, and stall.
Only two types of pilots do buzz jobs; 1) professionals who are practicing or
getting paid to do low level aerobatics, and 2) fools.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
 




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