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Old December 8th 04, 12:08 AM
alexy
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"Rich S." wrote:


it's clear that the NJ state
government has usurped the Federal authority in this area - not that this is
anything new for a state government.


I'm not sure how clear that is. Isn't there something in the US
Constitution relegating to the states any powers not specifically
reserved to the federal gov't? AFAIK, land use falls into that
category, so is not usurpation of federal authority.

PS I'm not saying that the NJ law doesn't suck -- just that it is
within their powers if that's what the people of the Garden State
want.
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Old December 8th 04, 12:38 AM
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"alexy" wrote in message
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I'm not sure how clear that is. Isn't there something in the US
Constitution relegating to the states any powers not specifically
reserved to the federal gov't? AFAIK, land use falls into that
category, so is not usurpation of federal authority.

PS I'm not saying that the NJ law doesn't suck -- just that it is
within their powers if that's what the people of the Garden State
want.


Article One, Section Eight, Clause Three of the U.S. Constitution states the
Congress shall have the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,
and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;". This interstate
commerce clause has been widely upheld by the Supreme Court and specifically
has given the Federal Government the exclusive power to regulate aviation.
(It's the same authority the Feds used to give us a 55 mph speed limit on
roads designed for much higher speeds).

Gradually however, the states have shuffled their noses under the tent of
the FAA and NTSB; taxing and regulating aviation activities and pilots. In
Washington state for example, pilots must have a state pilot's license
unless ALL of their flying is done interstate for a commercial carrier or
for the military. Aircraft owners must also register their aircraft with the
state and pay fees for the privilege.

Regulating the use of private or public land as landing strips is just
another backdoor method of regulating aviation. It is similar to recognizing
the right to keep and bear arms and then regulating ammunition or making it
illegal to discharge a firearm. Lawmakers always know more than one way to
skin a cat.

If any of the above is in error, it was written by my evil twin and given to
me in a dream.

Rich S.


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Old December 8th 04, 12:54 AM
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Rich S. wrote:
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"alexy" wrote in message
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I'm not sure how clear that is. Isn't there something in the US
Constitution relegating to the states any powers not specifically
reserved to the federal gov't? AFAIK, land use falls into that
category, so is not usurpation of federal authority.

PS I'm not saying that the NJ law doesn't suck -- just that it is
within their powers if that's what the people of the Garden State
want.



Article One, Section Eight, Clause Three of the U.S. Constitution states the
Congress shall have the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,
and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;". This interstate
commerce clause has been widely upheld by the Supreme Court and specifically
has given the Federal Government the exclusive power to regulate aviation.
(It's the same authority the Feds used to give us a 55 mph speed limit on
roads designed for much higher speeds).


No, technically there never was a federal speed limit of 55 mph. The
law just specified that in order to qualify for federal transportation
funds each state had to pass and enforce a 55 mph speed limit. Of
course in practice this amounted to the same thing since no state
wanted to give up its fair share of those funds (coming from their
own residents). But it was done this way specifically because the
federal government did not have the authority to directly specify
speed limits within the individual states.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/invntory/envspoms.txt :
"The 55 mph national speed limit was introduced January 1,
1974 in response to the OPEC oil embargo and subsequent "energy
crisis." While this speed limit was not mandated by the Federal
Government, highway funding was linked to adoption of this
speed limit, and its enforcement, by the States."

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Old December 8th 04, 01:15 AM
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"Rich S." wrote in message ...
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Gradually however, the states have shuffled their noses under the tent of the FAA and NTSB; taxing and regulating
aviation activities and pilots. In Washington state for example, pilots must have a state pilot's license unless ALL
of their flying is done interstate for a commercial carrier or for the military. Aircraft owners must also register
their aircraft with the state and pay fees for the privilege.


Does this mean that if you do all of your flying 'in state' you don't need a license from the FAA?


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Old December 8th 04, 01:42 PM
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zatatime wrote in
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I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of
a small field in town,


Cool! I didn't realize Santa had a Chauffer.

I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...
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Old December 8th 04, 05:05 PM
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of
a small field in town,


[...]
I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...


Didn't you hear? He had to switch to something else, 'cause the reindeer
kept burning up from the air friction.


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Old December 8th 04, 05:37 PM
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of
a small field in town,


[...]


I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...


Didn't you hear? He had to switch to something else, 'cause the
reindeer
kept burning up from the air friction.
[...]


I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...


Didn't you hear? He had to switch to something else, 'cause the
reindeer
kept burning up from the air friction.


*** REply ****

I thought it was because the reindeer flatulence was doing in the
ozone.

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Old December 8th 04, 08:07 PM
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Yes. Santa's sleigh is for sale on ASO! I sent a message asking whether
the red G-suit came with the sleigh, as an 8+1 reindeer powered sleigh has
serious G-forces on take-off. The seller replied:

Thank you for your interest in the sleigh. Since Santa is very busy

this time of year, I'm helping him with the sale of his pre-owned

sleigh.

Excellent question. Mrs. Claus is the sole supplier of Santa's red,

fur lined, soot resistant G-Suit with a built in auto heater. Due

to Santa's ever-increasing waistline (too many cookies), Mrs. Claus

is constantly making new suits for him. As every suit requires a

tremendous amount of labor, she unfortunately would not be able to

supply the sleigh buyer with one. She recommended checking with NASA for a
similar version.

Please let us know if you have any further questions and have a

wonderful holiday season!

Best regards,

The Honorary Elves at ASO

Carl Hixon wrote:



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Does the Sleigh come with the red G-suit required to safely pilot an


8+1 reindeer configured sleigh? I am unaware of a private source for


said suit and fear blackout upon takeoff.


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"Judah" wrote in message
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zatatime wrote in
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snip
I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of
a small field in town,


Cool! I didn't realize Santa had a Chauffer.

I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...



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Old December 8th 04, 11:01 PM
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We have a guy here that has a 1500 pound thing he hangs from his
Jetranger each Christmas. It is Santa in his sleigh and a couple of
reindeer. There's about a thousand lights being run from the generator
bungied to the skids. He flies without any lights on the copter and the
route is published in the paper on Dec 23 each year. His whole flight
takes him a couple hours.




Judah wrote:

zatatime wrote in
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I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of
a small field in town,



Cool! I didn't realize Santa had a Chauffer.

I guess as the world gets more and more populated, the Reindeer just
don't cut it anymore...

 




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