"bush flying" in the suburbs?

KBIL Every Christmas Eve.

Judah wrote:
Where is this? My kids would probably get a big kick out of something like
that...

Newps wrote in news:3N2dnbVgu59cGircRVn-
:


We have a guy here that has a 1500 pound thing he hangs from his
Jetranger each Christmas. It is Santa in his sleigh and a couple of
reindeer. There's about a thousand lights being run from the generator
bungied to the skids. He flies without any lights on the copter and the
route is published in the paper on Dec 23 each year. His whole flight
takes him a couple hours.

Oh darn. A bit too far to fly in an Arrow...


Newps wrote in
:

KBIL Every Christmas Eve.

Judah wrote:
Where is this? My kids would probably get a big kick out of something
like that...

Newps wrote in news:3N2dnbVgu59cGircRVn-
:


We have a guy here that has a 1500 pound thing he hangs from his
Jetranger each Christmas. It is Santa in his sleigh and a couple of
reindeer. There's about a thousand lights being run from the
generator bungied to the skids. He flies without any lights on the
copter and the route is published in the paper on Dec 23 each year.
His whole flight takes him a couple hours.

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:25:30 GMT, zatatime wrote:

In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,
which puts the kabosh on your plan for this state.

And no water landings, right?

Damian Delgaizo at Andover Flight Academy was planning to put floats
on his Husky (amphibious, presumably). As I understood it, he would
have to do the actual training across the state line in PA!


all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:35:58 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:25:30 GMT, zatatime wrote:

In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,
which puts the kabosh on your plan for this state.

And no water landings, right?

Damian Delgaizo at Andover Flight Academy was planning to put floats
on his Husky (amphibious, presumably). As I understood it, he would
have to do the actual training across the state line in PA!


This is correct. Damian was going to do this after someone else with
a Lake Amphib left the area. She had to use lakes in PA only as she
could not land on any open water other than designated seaplane bases
like the one on the Hudson.

HTH.
z

(Does Damian use any places to land other than approved landing
facilities for his other program? He'd know enough farmers out there
that he would if he could, and it might shed some light on the
original statement above.)

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:51:17 GMT, zatatime wrote:

(Does Damian use any places to land other than approved landing
facilities for his other program? He'd know enough farmers out there
that he would if he could, and it might shed some light on the
original statement above.)

As posted, we landed on private land. It's possible that these private
runways were approved by some authority or other.

One such could have been a farmer's field. The others were regularly
used by their owners as runways, including a strip on a fairly steep
hill.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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Cub Driver wrote:

As posted, we landed on private land. It's possible that these
private
runways were approved by some authority or other.

One such could have been a farmer's field. The others were regularly
used by their owners as runways, including a strip on a fairly steep
hill.


They might have fallen under the exception(s) alluded to in the
statute:

"except as provided for by the provisions of this
chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted
pursuant to this chapter, "
Does anyone know where to look for those?

--

FF

wrote in message
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They might have fallen under the exception(s) alluded to in the
statute:

"except as provided for by the provisions of this
chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted
pursuant to this chapter, "
Does anyone know where to look for those?

Sorry. This was undoubtedly written by lawyers - one of whom you must now
pay to interpret.

Rich S.

"Rich S." wrote in message
...
wrote in message
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They might have fallen under the exception(s) alluded to in the
statute:

"except as provided for by the provisions of this
chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted
pursuant to this chapter, "
Does anyone know where to look for those?

Sorry. This was undoubtedly written by lawyers - one of whom you must now
pay to interpret.

Rich S.

Well, Richie-Pooh, is suffering from the dark negativism of hysterical
melancholia today, so I'll tell you how to find them. You get the book of
statutes and look at the whole chapter, which will be indexed. A statute
will often refer to another statute and so on, so you read all of them until
you get a general understanding of the legislative policy of that state on
the specific topic you're interested in. Many non-lawyers read and
understand statutes as well as or better than lawyers do. There will also
be references to judicial opinions, attorney general opinions, and
administrative rules on the pages following the statutes you are looking at.
This is true with regard to the statutes in any state I'm familiar with.
If you can't find those statutes on the net, go to a law library. At the
University of Tennessee College of Law library in Knoxville the last I
looked there were codes of laws of just about every state in the USA, in
bound volumes.

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Cub Driver wrote:

As posted, we landed on private land. It's possible that these
private
runways were approved by some authority or other.

One such could have been a farmer's field. The others were regularly
used by their owners as runways, including a strip on a fairly steep
hill.


They might have fallen under the exception(s) alluded to in the
statute:

"except as provided for by the provisions of this
chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted
pursuant to this chapter, "
Does anyone know where to look for those?

--

FF


Which state? For the state you're interested in, start with a net search
using Google. Plug in "north carolina statutes" for example, or "new
jersey statutes."

Cub Driver wrote:

And no water landings, right?

There used to be a private seaplane base on the Raritan river just below New
Brunswick. The guy who owned the property kept a Cessna with amphibs there. He
operated from the river during the summer.

A few years ago, he was talking about selling the property. Someone at Kupper
(probably John Price) was telling me that the license to operate aircraft there
would expire unless he sold it to another seaplane owner.

Even if that's gone, there are seaplane bases on the Raritan Bay at Atlantic
Highlands, on the Navasink river above Rumson, on the inland waterway near
Lakewood, at Toms River, and at Manahawkin. Though a few of those are miles
inland, all of them are on tidal waters, and may be beyond the control of the
State. There're also bases on Greenwood lake and the Delaware, but both of those
are on State borders - I can't tell for sure if they're in NJ.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.