What is Southwest airlines Nuts ?

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

And "conference calls" will not do the job in many cases. We would've lost
a 50
mil contract if I couldn't have been face to face with the subject matter
experts on one occasion (our competition *was* face to face with them).

C-Calls are limited but with web-conferencing like WebEx the gap closes
meaningfully. No question that WebEx probably displaced 10-15% of my last
employer's travel budget. This is one of those "inflection point" issues.
Once people start assuming their competitors aren't getting on a plane they
won't get on one either. There will always be things that demand the
in-person presence but that list will shrink by 5% or so per year. A 35%
drop in business travel over the next five years is not out of the question
and would make 9/11 a footnote to the collapse of the airline industry.

-cwk.

"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

And "conference calls" will not do the job in many cases. We would've
lost
a 50
mil contract if I couldn't have been face to face with the subject
matter
experts on one occasion (our competition *was* face to face with them).

C-Calls are limited but with web-conferencing like WebEx the gap closes
meaningfully. No question that WebEx probably displaced 10-15% of my last
employer's travel budget. This is one of those "inflection point" issues.
Once people start assuming their competitors aren't getting on a plane
they
won't get on one either. There will always be things that demand the
in-person presence but that list will shrink by 5% or so per year. A 35%
drop in business travel over the next five years is not out of the
question
and would make 9/11 a footnote to the collapse of the airline industry.

-cwk.


That loss in business travel is more than enough to put one or two majors
out of business. They have only themselves to blame due to the fact they
ripped and continue to rip off the business traveler which for years has
paid top dollar for a seat.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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That loss in business travel is more than enough to put one or two majors
out of business. They have only themselves to blame due to the fact they
ripped and continue to rip off the business traveler which for years has
paid top dollar for a seat.

First, the "business traveler" typically fly's on one or two days
notice...that's why they spend more.

Second, alternatives have been available for years...and only very SLOWLY do
businesses adopt them.

Hell, years ago the bitch was the delays and rigid schedules of the
airlines. Many people used GA and charter, but I guess most businesses just
continued to gripe, just like they do about bad employees, foreign
competitors, regulation (that they often asked for), etc., etc.,...


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline

Actually SWA has only become a top-5 player in the past five years or so.
Last I checked, DL, SW, and AA were all pretty close to each other.

http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/20...bts019_04.html

and is one of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it is the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.


Southwest does not operate a national network, but rather flies a large
number of point-to-point flights. The difference is subtle but significant.
SW is fine if you're going from Manchester to Midway, but if you're trying
to get to Boise it doesn't necessarily work so well and connection times
often run over two hours versus 60mins on a hub-and-spoke carrier. As
Southwest has gotten bigger and served more cities with higher frequency
this has become less of a problem, but their model has its limits. They
intentionally avoid most large airports (BOS, ORD, JFK, LGA, EWK, SFO) as
well.

-cwk.