What is Southwest airlines Nuts ?

Peter MacPherson wrote:

Even if the private aircraft is cheaper than the airlines? Was this put in
so
employees weren't chartering G-V's g and not really meant for personal
aircraft that could save them money?

I don't know the reason for the policy. There was a rumour that it was reaction
to a guy who tried to write off his loaded expenses (hangar rent, annual
maintenance, etc.), but I suspect it was simply that they didn't want to
encourage business use of private aircraft for fear of liability issues. If they
had wanted to take steps against overcharging, they could simply have set limits
(such as allowing one to charge the auto mileage rate).

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:
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but I suspect it was simply that they didn't want to
encourage business use of private aircraft for fear of liability
issues.

Give that man a cigar. That's the number one reason corporations
look down on the use of private aircraft for business travel. The
folks in the risk management department just tremble at the thought of
the liabilities that could be incurred if an employee crashed while on
the clock.

I'd love myself on company business, but I realize that flying my
plane poses a much greater risk to the company than going commercial.
For the company, it's just not worth the few dollars I'd save them
(unless I was insured for some ridiculously high amount).
John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

In article SiAAd.39008$k25.3005@attbi_s53,
"Peter MacPherson" wrote:

Even if the private aircraft is cheaper than the airlines?

A travel accounting person actually told me once that cheaper
was not a justification that the auditers would allow!

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

Yep, sounds like the company I used to work at.


"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article SiAAd.39008$k25.3005@attbi_s53,
"Peter MacPherson" wrote:

Even if the private aircraft is cheaper than the airlines?

A travel accounting person actually told me once that cheaper
was not a justification that the auditers would allow!

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

I've never heard of a company that wouldn't allow you to fly yourself.
That would drive me nuts.....being a pilot, having a plane and not being
able to fly myself and have to go the airline route.


"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
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I know--it's perfect. My company has a little clause in their travel policy
about using private aircraft for business only when another commercial
pilot is flying. It obviously was not written by a pilot! I'll just have to
claim regular automobile mileage reimbursement instead of listing
aircraft-related expenses. They shouldn't care how I get there. I couldn't
do it last time because my family came down and visited relatives in VA
therefore needing a car to get back to NY earlier than me.

My trip should be a little longer in my Warrior than your friend's
Bonanza...but who cares!

Marco Leon

"Peter MacPherson" wrote in message
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True, but this is where flying yourself really pays off. NY - VA would
be a nice quick trip flying yourself. I have a friend in the Boston area
who flies to DC area every week. Before he bought his Bonanza he was
flying down there on the airlines. The flight on the airlines is only an
hour
to DC from Boston, but when he factored in the drive to the airport,
getting
there early for security, etc.., he could get there faster in his own
plane.
Now he drives 10 minutes from his house to the airport where the plane
is hangared, lands at JYO(Leesburg, VA) and grabs a rental car. To me
this
is the perfect way to use GA for business travel. His company loves it
too....
they don't have to shell out $600 for the airline tickets. g



"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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I thought the same thing about driving from NY to Virginia on biz. Then I
got caught in the Wash DC Beltway traffic... NYC traffic pales in
comparison. Next time I fly.

Marco Leon


"Peter MacPherson" wrote in message:

Can't blame them. After driving to the airport, getting there 2 hours
early
for
security, praying your flight leaves on time(or at all), it's easier to
drive.



"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in
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"569" wrote in message
oups.com...
That airline is pure hell. I used to travel 250,000 miles a
year
for
business, all domestic. I refused and still refuse to fly them.
It's
no better then the Greyhound bus.


Well, you get what you pay for. That is the market that Southwest
caters
to.

Southwest flies more passengers by far than any other airline and is
one
of
a few actually making money. If other airlines want to survive it
is
the
Southwest model they will have to adopt.

Southwest is the most profitable, but although some other airlines
have
tried to copy them, they have so far not been nearly as successful.

I wonder if business travelers should bother with the airlines at all
anymore.

Peter MacPherson wrote:

I've never heard of a company that wouldn't allow you to fly yourself.
That would drive me nuts.....being a pilot, having a plane and not being
able to fly myself and have to go the airline route.

It may be an insurance and/or liability issue. I used to work for a
water research department. We were several SCUBA divers, some of us very
experienced, but we were not allowed to do the underwater part
ourselves, they rather hired professionals. Drove us nuts, too, but it
was an insurance issue.

Stefan